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Old 18th February 2020, 04:50 PM   #1
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Default Gaucho Knife

Got this one home today.... A rather newly made....
I am curious about the trumpet mark....
Should really appreciate if someone have any information about that....

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Old 19th February 2020, 03:16 AM   #2
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Got this one home today.... A rather newly made....
I am curious about the trumpet mark....
Should really appreciate if someone have any information about that....

Best,
Stefan
This makers brand corresponds to "Trompeta" and from what I could find out it was marketed by the Argentine firm Eberle. Here's a link in Spanish to the history of the maker and I have found an similar knife for sale advertised as an Eberle knife and bearing the same brand.

https://www.mundial-sa.com.ar/historia.php

Because of forum rules re items being currently auctioned or offered for sale I cannot give you the link, but if you Google "Cuchillo Trompeta Corno Eberle Facon 17,5 Cm" you may get lucky.

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Old 19th February 2020, 09:34 AM   #3
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Thank you so very much for your answer. I really appreciate it, Chris!

Anyway, I must admit that I am confused when it comes to the makers mark....
Found this one:

"MAKER'S PICTORIAL TRUMPET MARK (ELMO)"

Is it not strange that ELMO and EBERLE should use the same makers mark?

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Old 19th February 2020, 10:47 AM   #4
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Thank you so very much for your answer. I really appreciate it, Chris!

Anyway, I must admit that I am confused when it comes to the makers mark....
Found this one:

"MAKER'S PICTORIAL TRUMPET MARK (ELMO)"

Is it not strange that ELMO and EBERLE should use the same makers mark?

Best,
Stefan
If you do a search for "Eberle Elmo" you'll get a number of hits for knives on sale, so those two brand names are linked in some way. One such hit took me to Brazil, so there's a clue perhaps suggesting a joint venture.

Edit: Here's part of the answer https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal%..._Abramo_Eberle

Edit: Website of Elmo which appears to be a different organization from Eberle: http://www.facacriolla.com.br/sobre-nos

However, it is entirely possible the Elmo or Eberle suppled each other with blades and were later marketed under their respective brands, a common practice in the cutlery industry. However it is likely that the brand of Elmo was mistakenly attributed by the seller to a knife made by Eberle as "Elmo in Portuguese translates as "Helmet" and the knives shown on their website do bear the mark of a helmet and not a trumpet.

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Old 19th February 2020, 11:29 AM   #5
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Again, thank you so very much, Chris!

I must admit that first I thought ELMO was not a company but just a sign what material it was in the blade.... ELMO INOX....

Well, it will be an interesting topic to to try research....

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INOX is shorthand for acero inoxidable which means stainless steel in Spanish.
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Old 19th February 2020, 10:14 PM   #7
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Hi

ELMO in Portuguese, means YELMO, and denotes that it is the brand of the dagger and that stainless is used for the blade.

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Old 19th February 2020, 10:22 PM   #8
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Hi

I forgot to say that here the figure of a YELMO is used to imitate some of the white weapons produced by Weyesberg, which in Castilian had the figure of a YELMO (helmet). and the word CASCO

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Old 22nd February 2020, 05:00 PM   #9
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Thank you so very much guys for the answers.... I really appreciate it!

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