yatagan with interesting blade

francantolin · 9th July 2020, 07:27 PM

And this classic '' medium'' sized yatagan,
sadly with a really damaged horn hilt.
( I hesitate to change it or just fill up the holes with appropriate resin )

Blade seems of really nice quality and the engravings ( a lot

!!!! )
are really nice and interesting

Any idea about origin and age ?

francantolin · 9th July 2020, 07:30 PM

silver inlays in think,

maybe a signature ?

strange signs / calligraphy ...

TVV · 9th July 2020, 07:53 PM

On this one you can clearly see the layers of Turkish ribbon (twistcore) in the blade. It is worth carefully etching to bring the pattern contrast out.

francantolin · 10th July 2020, 03:22 PM

Hello,

Thank you !!

i will sand it and etch,
Do you think it's too a zeybek yatagan ( with broken hilt ears ? end of 19th century ?

TVV · 10th July 2020, 05:03 PM

I think it is from Asia Minor, though I suspect the ears were relatively small as opposed to the large T-shaped hilts usually associated with zeybeks.

francantolin · 10th July 2020, 05:22 PM

Thank's a lot !

Like this one for the hilt shape

Kind regards

Saracen · 13th July 2020, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by francantolin

silver inlays in think,

maybe a signature ?

strange signs / calligraphy ...

Это имена семи отроков эфесских.
Там может быть дата в начале этой надписи.
Этот тип инкрустации клинка из Малой Азии

These are the names of the seven youths of Ephesus.
There may be a date at the beginning of this inscription.
This type of blade inlay is from Asia Minor

kwiatek · 14th July 2020, 08:21 AM

Saracen is correct, the names of the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus and their dog (worn and with mistakes). In the roundel at the beginning of the decoration is the name “Mahmud”, presumably the maker

francantolin · 31st July 2020, 08:30 AM

Hello,
Really a BIG Thank you Saracen and Kwiatek for your precious help about translation and informations about the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus !!!!!

Sorry for being late to answer, I was on holiday with no e-connection ( maybe like asleep !

I read that in islamic culture the name of the sleepers and their dog were written on items as a protection against evil eye.

Interesting to learn that the legend was/is known in Europa , north Africa and Asia in Christian and Islamic culture.
an nice accordance,
fortunately not the only one but precious to remember in these sensitive times !

Kind regards

9th July 2020, 07:27 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 873	yatagan with interesting blade And this classic '' medium'' sized yatagan, sadly with a really damaged horn hilt. ( I hesitate to change it or just fill up the holes with appropriate resin ) Blade seems of really nice quality and the engravings ( a lot !!!! ) are really nice and interesting Any idea about origin and age ? Attached Images

9th July 2020, 07:30 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 873	silver inlays in think, maybe a signature ? strange signs / calligraphy ... Attached Images

10th July 2020, 05:22 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 873	Thank's a lot ! Like this one for the hilt shape Kind regards Attached Images

31st July 2020, 08:30 AM	#9
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 873	Hello, Really a BIG Thank you Saracen and Kwiatek for your precious help about translation and informations about the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus !!!!! Sorry for being late to answer, I was on holiday with no e-connection ( maybe like asleep ! I read that in islamic culture the name of the sleepers and their dog were written on items as a protection against evil eye. Interesting to learn that the legend was/is known in Europa , north Africa and Asia in Christian and Islamic culture. an nice accordance, fortunately not the only one but precious to remember in these sensitive times ! Kind regards Attached Images

9th July 2020, 07:53 PM	#3
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,620	On this one you can clearly see the layers of Turkish ribbon (twistcore) in the blade. It is worth carefully etching to bring the pattern contrast out.

10th July 2020, 03:22 PM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 873	Hello, Thank you !! i will sand it and etch, Do you think it's too a zeybek yatagan ( with broken hilt ears ? end of 19th century ?

10th July 2020, 05:03 PM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,620	I think it is from Asia Minor, though I suspect the ears were relatively small as opposed to the large T-shaped hilts usually associated with zeybeks.

14th July 2020, 08:21 AM	#8
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 153	Saracen is correct, the names of the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus and their dog (worn and with mistakes). In the roundel at the beginning of the decoration is the name “Mahmud”, presumably the maker