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Old 10th April 2022, 08:29 AM   #1
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Default British Musketoon & Pistol

Good evening gents, I would like your opinion on these two items as I know next to nothing about 19th century firearms. The musket specially is hard to pin down as it has some British qualities but lots of American as well. Thank you.
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Old 10th April 2022, 08:33 AM   #2
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Old 10th April 2022, 08:38 PM   #3
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In my opinion, these are two weapons, not regulatory, but similar. The barrel of the musket (cavalry, artillery?) lacks test punches. The ramrod is held by a spring, which fits into a channel in a thickening, as in some regulation models. The piece with a perforation in front of the trigger guard looks like the one that held a chain in later percussion models, so as not to lose a trigger guard. The lock with the inscription BARNETT and a crown, thus refers to a piece assembled with different pieces, but vintage, and sold to countries at war by English gunsmiths.

As for the pistol, although it has a barrel with what appear to be marks of the test punch (two crowned scepters) of the tower and a punch with the reigning monarch (GR) and the wide arrow indicating ownership of the Crown, the lock is not of a regulatory model. Notice the priming pan, faceted like the civilian models and fastened by screws instead of being welded or forged, the counter-plate with a military design, although it lacks a stock pommel

For me, it was about two weapons sold in times of scarcity
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Old 11th April 2022, 07:30 PM   #4
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Thank you Fernando that is really helpful. A lot of of the other items on this American auction where from the Indian war so it makes perfect sense as the British sold them a lot of surplus stuff.
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Old 12th April 2022, 09:28 PM   #5
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Barnett was one of several sizable & lasting gunmakers who would make up affordable guns from obsolete ex Ordnance parts that they acquired. A good example is a rifled 'carbine' that I catalogued yesterday, the lock marked BARNETT LONDON had the small crown arrow govt acceptance stamp and was the lock type used on trial P/1853 rifles - essentially a P/1853 lock with a screw to secure the mainspring - while the barrel was a King George era proofed Baker Rifle barrel that was shortened & had a percussioned short breech section screwed on. The gun was made after the aforementioned lock was obsolete which would not have been before about 1855.
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