Khodmi dagger for comment 1929

Atlantia · 12th January 2013, 08:48 PM

I thought this one was interesting as they aren't usually dated.
It's a reasonable example in nice complete order with the date of 1929 on one side and some Berber? symbols on the other.

Rich · 12th January 2013, 08:57 PM

Exceptionally nice example. Good find.

Rich S

Sajen · 12th January 2013, 11:23 PM

Very nice dagger!

Robert · 13th January 2013, 12:20 AM

Great dagger, I really like these!

Robert

Nathaniel · 13th January 2013, 03:25 AM

Definite bonus. Solid piece! Congrats!

Atlantia · 13th January 2013, 12:40 PM

Rich, Detlef, Robert, Nathaniel.

Thank you guys

If truth be known one of my motivating factors for acquiring this piece was to hopefully increase our knowledge of these oft overlooked daggers.
I've had a few over the years and of course seen many more as they are not exactly 'rare' as a type!

I've not personally had one with a dated blade before. Also, most that I see seem to have blade decoration that is more decorative than descriptive.
This one seems to have very specific symbols.
So it gives an interesting 'snapshot' of the 20thc evolution of the form.

Perhaps others will join into this thread with similar examples?

Atlantia · 13th January 2013, 05:01 PM

Anyone have any thoughts on these markings?

kronckew · 13th January 2013, 08:20 PM

can you do a closeup of the tip - is it notched like other examples? shame about all the solder & missing transverse wires. can (or should) it be re-wired?

Atlantia · 13th January 2013, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

can you do a closeup of the tip - is it notched like other examples? shame about all the solder & missing transverse wires. can (or should) it be re-wired?

Hi Kronck.

There aren't any missing wires. The handle is wrapped with brass and steel wire. Some of the steel wire is twisted, some platted. No gaps though.

The tip has the standard notch.
You can see in the picture that it needs a clean!

Dom · 14th January 2013, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

I thought this one was interesting as they aren't usually dated.
It's a reasonable example in nice complete order with the date of 1929 on one side and some Berber? symbols on the other.

Hi Atlantia
- this knife is Algerian
- from Bou Saâda (Ar. Bū Saʿāda, place of happiness)
is an oasis town in northeastern Algeria located in M’Sila province
between the Chott el-Hodna (salt lake) and the Saharan Atlas Mountains,
approximately 245 kilometers (152 miles) south of Algiers.
- Berber ethnic
- handle from ram's horn
- the hole in the handle it's to pass through the leather cord
and to secure it with a node, to don't lost the scabbard

otherwise, you have a pretty nice example of it, congratulations

à +

Dom

kronckew · 14th January 2013, 09:57 AM

the transverse wires: (another forumite's khodmi)

running from the pommel end towards the bolster, in the grooves empty in yours and most others.

aha, found pics of mine:

also with xverse wires.

12th January 2013, 08:48 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Khodmi dagger for comment 1929 I thought this one was interesting as they aren't usually dated. It's a reasonable example in nice complete order with the date of 1929 on one side and some Berber? symbols on the other. Attached Images

13th January 2013, 05:01 PM	#7
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Anyone have any thoughts on these markings? Attached Images

12th January 2013, 08:57 PM	#2
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	Exceptionally nice example. Good find. Rich S

12th January 2013, 11:23 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Very nice dagger!

13th January 2013, 12:20 AM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Great dagger, I really like these! Robert

13th January 2013, 03:25 AM	#5
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Definite bonus. Solid piece! Congrats!

13th January 2013, 12:40 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Rich, Detlef, Robert, Nathaniel. Thank you guys If truth be known one of my motivating factors for acquiring this piece was to hopefully increase our knowledge of these oft overlooked daggers. I've had a few over the years and of course seen many more as they are not exactly 'rare' as a type! I've not personally had one with a dated blade before. Also, most that I see seem to have blade decoration that is more decorative than descriptive. This one seems to have very specific symbols. So it gives an interesting 'snapshot' of the 20thc evolution of the form. Perhaps others will join into this thread with similar examples?

13th January 2013, 08:20 PM	#8
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	can you do a closeup of the tip - is it notched like other examples? shame about all the solder & missing transverse wires. can (or should) it be re-wired?

14th January 2013, 09:57 AM	#11
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	the transverse wires: (another forumite's khodmi) running from the pommel end towards the bolster, in the grooves empty in yours and most others. aha, found pics of mine: also with xverse wires.