Help Keris bought in Yogjakarta

shawfan · 12th July 2008, 04:13 PM

Hi,

I bought this Keris in Yogjakarta. Can anybody tell me more about this Keris?
What kind of Keris is this? How old it could be?

If somebody could help me to answer these questions I would be very glad. Personally I do not know much about Keris but I like them very much.

Thanks a lot...

Rick · 12th July 2008, 05:12 PM

Hi, this is new work .

I edited your question on value as we do not discuss such things in this forum .

Rick

shawfan · 12th July 2008, 05:46 PM

I bought this in a region where only palace worker live. The woman who sold me the Keris told me that the people bring the Keris to her, cause they are afraid of the mystic in the Keris. The people have to do special rituals to take care of the Keris. Some old palace workers or family members who intend the Keris don't want to do this. So the people bring their Keris to her cause she and her father can free the Keris of the spirit.

The woman has a lot of Keris. They are all stored in an old broken wardrobe. My wife is from indonesia too. She don't like if I buy Keris cause she is afraid of the mystic too.

Ya, that's the indonesian culture.

David · 12th July 2008, 06:15 PM

Welcome Shawfan. I agree with Rick, new work. The wood of the wrongko and hilt is beautiful. The kinatah (gold part) on the blade looks a little rough, but that might just be because of the way you photographed it in the bright sun. But it almost looks painted on.

I wouldn't think that a contemporary keris like this one holds all that much mystical power, so you can probably assure your wife that it's safe to have around.

shawfan · 12th July 2008, 08:05 PM

Yes, I think the gold is painted on. But this Keris is much heavier than normal. I have another one with the same gold dragon but the weight is much smaller and the wide of the blade is smaller.

I own 4 Keris but this one on the picture is the heaviest one. I like it

Henk · 12th July 2008, 08:55 PM

New keris, and a well made dress. As said by the other forum members, your wife has nothing to fear of spirits with this keris.

Alam Shah · 13th July 2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shawfan

... My wife is from indonesia too. She don't like if I buy Keris cause she is afraid of the mystic too.

I'm with the rest, new keris, nice sheath.
I've kept keris for sometime now, almost 20 years. Most are old... nothing to be afraid of, imo.

shawfan · 13th July 2008, 11:24 AM

Here are some picture of the other Keris.

The weight ist much smaller than the first one.

David · 13th July 2008, 03:39 PM

Hi Shawfan. This one also appears to be modern work. The dress is Madurese, the sheath form is formal. It has 9 luks (curves) and again the naga is present. I cannot tell from your picture how than "kinatah" is done on this example. You other one seemed to have the gold painted on, which technically would not really be considered kinatah. Lots of these modern examples use brass instead of gold, but you still see new kinatah being done today.

Alam Shah · 13th July 2008, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawfan

Here are some picture of the other Keris.

The weight ist much smaller than the first one.

Hi shawfan,
See here for some good example of older kerises.
Kerisbudi Collection

and here for examples of good quality newer one...

Keris Dheso Collection

David · 13th July 2008, 04:34 PM

Thanks Shahrial. Some very nice keris in both those collections.

semar · 18th July 2008, 08:35 AM

yes this is a new made keris
I have film this kind of work how its made
but I don`t know how to show the movie on the forum
its verry intresting en for some old keris have fun en look one http://semar.maakjestart.nl/

12th July 2008, 04:13 PM	#1
shawfan Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	Help Keris bought in Yogjakarta Hi, I bought this Keris in Yogjakarta. Can anybody tell me more about this Keris? What kind of Keris is this? How old it could be? If somebody could help me to answer these questions I would be very glad. Personally I do not know much about Keris but I like them very much. Thanks a lot... Attached Images

13th July 2008, 11:24 AM	#8
shawfan Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	Here are some picture of the other Keris. The weight ist much smaller than the first one. Attached Images

12th July 2008, 05:12 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,291	Hi, this is new work . I edited your question on value as we do not discuss such things in this forum . Rick

12th July 2008, 05:46 PM	#3
shawfan Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	I bought this in a region where only palace worker live. The woman who sold me the Keris told me that the people bring the Keris to her, cause they are afraid of the mystic in the Keris. The people have to do special rituals to take care of the Keris. Some old palace workers or family members who intend the Keris don't want to do this. So the people bring their Keris to her cause she and her father can free the Keris of the spirit. The woman has a lot of Keris. They are all stored in an old broken wardrobe. My wife is from indonesia too. She don't like if I buy Keris cause she is afraid of the mystic too. Ya, that's the indonesian culture.

12th July 2008, 06:15 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,120	Welcome Shawfan. I agree with Rick, new work. The wood of the wrongko and hilt is beautiful. The kinatah (gold part) on the blade looks a little rough, but that might just be because of the way you photographed it in the bright sun. But it almost looks painted on. I wouldn't think that a contemporary keris like this one holds all that much mystical power, so you can probably assure your wife that it's safe to have around.

12th July 2008, 08:05 PM	#5
shawfan Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	Yes, I think the gold is painted on. But this Keris is much heavier than normal. I have another one with the same gold dragon but the weight is much smaller and the wide of the blade is smaller. I own 4 Keris but this one on the picture is the heaviest one. I like it

12th July 2008, 08:55 PM	#6
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	New keris, and a well made dress. As said by the other forum members, your wife has nothing to fear of spirits with this keris.

13th July 2008, 03:39 PM	#9
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,120	Hi Shawfan. This one also appears to be modern work. The dress is Madurese, the sheath form is formal. It has 9 luks (curves) and again the naga is present. I cannot tell from your picture how than "kinatah" is done on this example. You other one seemed to have the gold painted on, which technically would not really be considered kinatah. Lots of these modern examples use brass instead of gold, but you still see new kinatah being done today.

13th July 2008, 04:34 PM	#11
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,120	Thanks Shahrial. Some very nice keris in both those collections.

18th July 2008, 08:35 AM	#12
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	yes this is a new made keris I have film this kind of work how its made but I don`t know how to show the movie on the forum its verry intresting en for some old keris have fun en look one http://semar.maakjestart.nl/