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Old 23rd May 2020, 12:35 PM   #1
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Filigree being one of the oldest and for me most beautiful art forms used to make very nice silver and gold jewelry.
Especially traditional jewelry and a lot found in the Mediterranean, although more and more disappearing the last 3 to 5 decades.

Most of the forum members might know filigree from decoration on scabbards or handles but also very nice was the fact that filigree dagger brooches were made.
Enclosed one from the former Yugoslavia ( sold around Dubrovnik, Kotor, Mostar and Sarajevo) bought in 1985. Size around 2 to 2,5 cm
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Old 23rd January 2021, 02:12 PM   #2
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some more filigree art. First another broche and based upon the "ball" type it could be from Southern Dalamatia ( Dubrovnik/Ragusa or Bay of Kotor / Boka Kotorska, Kotor/Cattaro) to Italy and Sicily between 1920 - 1950
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Old 23rd January 2021, 02:17 PM   #3
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Also very interesting is this antique Russian letter opener from around 1900
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Old 23rd January 2021, 02:22 PM   #4
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Next a paperknife in form of a dagger, silver plated,filigree decoration by
W S Cornish at Wembly Exhibition, London, England, 1924-1925 ( A2671) an a later reproduction from Israel
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Old 23rd January 2021, 02:27 PM   #5
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Last but not least a Yemenite Shibriya 20 cm long
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Old 23rd January 2021, 06:21 PM   #6
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Last but not least a Yemenite Shibriya 20 cm long
This one is not Yemenite but classic Omani khanjar.

More precisely is of the "Said" type.
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Old 23rd January 2021, 08:10 PM   #7
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This one is not Yemenite but classic Omani khanjar.

More precisely is of the "Said" type.
thank you for correcting me! Hereby 2 pics of the mentioned filigree lhanjar
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thank you for correcting me! Hereby 2 pics of the mentioned filigree lhanjar
Now this appears to be a Yemenite jambyia.
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Now this appears to be a Yemenite jambyia.
than I have been taken for a ride...can you add the correct picture ?
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Old 25th January 2021, 10:30 PM   #10
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Here is what I believe to be an Yemenite dharia (or shall I call it jambiya ???) from my collection.
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Old 25th January 2021, 10:36 PM   #11
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Also filigree... but Georgian qama.
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Nice pieces you are showing here.

Another Yemenite Jambiya:
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Old 26th January 2021, 08:26 PM   #13
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and with reference to Jose's excellent restoration, two pictures of Bosnian Yataghans with some fine filigree craftsmanship from Sarajevo's Baščaršija.
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If this kind of work may be classified as filigree, here we have a silver Yemenite jannbyya; in this partcular case a work executed by local Jew silversmiths, judging by the author's signature in Temani dialect.


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Not to forget that Portuguese filigree was and is a strong manual industry, specially in the Nort of the country.
Not necessarily in the shape of weapons but, still in the universe of miscellania


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Great examples!

Never seen a filigree ship before.
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Great examples!
Never seen a filigree ship before.
José, the ship (Caravel) is the motif that abunds in theses works; call it ex-libris.
Specially for you, a part of my friend's filigree collection.
Picture 3 is the front of Sain Paul (1602) church ruins in Macau


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This shipmodels I sold last week.................would have been a nice rendition for your friend
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He has zillions oF those, Udo.
I could go on and on ...


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Old 14th March 2023, 08:49 PM   #20
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just received my latest purchase; a small size filigree sword ( hančár ) or dagger (kama) made by an Albanian silversmith quite some decades ago. Full silver ( approx. 800 )
Total length 20 cm, grip and blade each 10 cm
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