New dagger!

Aurangzeb · 13th August 2005, 12:46 AM

Hi all!

just got these off Ebay.I know the last one is a tourist piece but I choul not resist a Zulfiqar look alike!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

Rich · 13th August 2005, 02:20 AM

I like the first three, neat pieces at a good price IMHO. Don't
really care for the last one; too "touristy". Is that a historically
accurate blade form? I've no idea as these aren't my field at all.

Rich S

ariel · 13th August 2005, 02:25 AM

The second one is an Afghani Lohar. Not bad for the price! You lucked out!
The third one (Jambiya) looks Syrian or Lebanese to me and is quite old: well, at that time both belonged to the Ottoman Empire anyway. Artzi can pinpoint the origin to within 10 miles.....
The first and the fourth are bazaar pieces. I know the itch: you kinda see the piece, know for sure that it is a tourist stuff but there is something that pushes you to buy it no matter what......

Aurangzeb · 13th August 2005, 03:01 AM

Hi ariel!

Yes, thats the feeling alright!

The Syrian or Lebanese one seems to be an old blade that is possibly rehilted. The Lohar I think is the best of the lot and in good condition, do you believe the story that came with it or do you think it's a "story" made to sell it? The Koummya I like because it seems to have a little quality to it. The split blade one is still a mystery to me as to it's origen even though the auction said Iran, when I get it maybe someone can read the inscription on the blade. I think it's blade is supposed to be like Zulfiqar the split sword of Mohammed or was it Ali( I forget who's it was).

P.S.- What does a lohar go for normally. How old do you think the jambiya is?

Aqtai · 13th August 2005, 10:18 AM

Split blades do exist, although this is the first time I've seen one on a dagger, usually I've seen them on swords. Swords of this type are assumed to be copies of Dhu-l-Faqqar, the sword of the prophet Muhammad, which was later used by his cousin Ali ibn Abi-Taaleb. The swords of this type I have seen are usually very ornate, I doubt they were ever meant for use in combat.

Aurangzeb · 19th August 2005, 01:20 AM

Hi All!

Today I just got the Koummya and as it turns out it is not a tourist dagger it is a good quality dagger of modern make with a copper sheath plated with good quality silver and the blade is very well forged and sharp!

Mark...

P.S.-The sheath and hilt have coral put on them. Are these kind of hilts and sheaths attributed to a specific region?

13th August 2005, 12:46 AM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	New dagger! Hi all! just got these off Ebay.I know the last one is a tourist piece but I choul not resist a Zulfiqar look alike! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

19th August 2005, 01:20 AM	#6
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	NICE SUPRISE Hi All! Today I just got the Koummya and as it turns out it is not a tourist dagger it is a good quality dagger of modern make with a copper sheath plated with good quality silver and the blade is very well forged and sharp! Mark... P.S.-The sheath and hilt have coral put on them. Are these kind of hilts and sheaths attributed to a specific region? Last edited by Aurangzeb; 19th August 2005 at 03:36 AM.

13th August 2005, 02:20 AM	#2
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	I like the first three, neat pieces at a good price IMHO. Don't really care for the last one; too "touristy". Is that a historically accurate blade form? I've no idea as these aren't my field at all. Rich S

13th August 2005, 02:25 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	The second one is an Afghani Lohar. Not bad for the price! You lucked out! The third one (Jambiya) looks Syrian or Lebanese to me and is quite old: well, at that time both belonged to the Ottoman Empire anyway. Artzi can pinpoint the origin to within 10 miles..... The first and the fourth are bazaar pieces. I know the itch: you kinda see the piece, know for sure that it is a tourist stuff but there is something that pushes you to buy it no matter what......

13th August 2005, 03:01 AM	#4
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi ariel! Yes, thats the feeling alright! The Syrian or Lebanese one seems to be an old blade that is possibly rehilted. The Lohar I think is the best of the lot and in good condition, do you believe the story that came with it or do you think it's a "story" made to sell it? The Koummya I like because it seems to have a little quality to it. The split blade one is still a mystery to me as to it's origen even though the auction said Iran, when I get it maybe someone can read the inscription on the blade. I think it's blade is supposed to be like Zulfiqar the split sword of Mohammed or was it Ali( I forget who's it was). P.S.- What does a lohar go for normally. How old do you think the jambiya is?

13th August 2005, 10:18 AM	#5
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	Split blades do exist, although this is the first time I've seen one on a dagger, usually I've seen them on swords. Swords of this type are assumed to be copies of Dhu-l-Faqqar, the sword of the prophet Muhammad, which was later used by his cousin Ali ibn Abi-Taaleb. The swords of this type I have seen are usually very ornate, I doubt they were ever meant for use in combat.