Ebay UK bans all knives.

Atlantia · 23rd February 2009, 03:09 PM

Looks like the announcement has been finalised:

From 10th March 2009, all knives and swords except cutlery will be banned from sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. The definition of cutlery includes those implements which can be used for eating, including cutlery sets, individual pieces of cutlery and antique cutlery.

All other items, including knives used in the preparation of food will be banned, including (but not limited to);
# antique knives
# bread knives
# craft knives
# Stanley knives
# camping/ survival/ hunting knives
# diving knives
# kitchen knives
# Swiss Army knives and Leathermans
# all swords

katana · 23rd February 2009, 04:20 PM

Just to 'rub it in'.....the ban starts on my Birthday

Had been hoping eBay may have reconsidered their 'stance'

Regards David

Norman McCormick · 23rd February 2009, 05:34 PM

Hi Guys,
Anybody had any dealings with specialistauctions.com , just wondered if this might be a viable alternative for the U.K.
Regards,
Norman.

asomotif · 23rd February 2009, 06:05 PM

Pfew...

I guess this makes the UK a saver place.

Now lets hope that all criminals take their responsabillity and don't start using kitchen knives for their crimes.
Because before you know the whole UK will be eating with chopsticks

Amazing that serious business people like ebay can take such decissions and still look in the mirror each day

Norman McCormick · 23rd February 2009, 06:28 PM

Whoa there!!!!!
You can poke an eye out with a chopstick.

asomotif · 24th February 2009, 01:35 AM

Quote:

You can poke an eye out with a chopstick.

And with a pencil... with your finger... with a knitting needle...

Aaaarghhh

so many things to ban from ebay...

Ps I noticed some UK based sellers on Ebay.nl Is that the solution ?

fearn · 24th February 2009, 04:34 AM

Sheesh, I'll bet you can buy a three foot long katana shaped letter opener (foot? I meant inch

) already. Good grief. I wonder how many hours it will take before people figure out how to crack the filters and sell knives anyway?

F

Mytribalworld · 24th February 2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

And with a pencil... with your finger... with a knitting needle...

Aaaarghhh

so many things to ban from ebay...

Ps I noticed some UK based sellers on Ebay.nl Is that the solution ?

Hi Guys,

whatever the solution may be it is again another proof how Ebay tries to tighten their grip on the world market of vintage goods.
That they are making their own rules only based on making money and image.
After they took over paypal they have a lot power, so much that they take you wallet and pays back your customer as he claims not recieved item,not good described item, damage etc. without checking you firts.
The also like to exchange your dollars into euro's while the have free visit to my euro account.
No ebay doesn't take only listing fees, also a lot of excange fee!
Its much more expensive as you think. They are so enourmous sneaky!

And now the think they are working on "a better world" by exclude a Victorinox from action?
However they have made that rule I doubt however if seen to the leading position Ebay takes in the market they may exclude quite normal stuff like knifes,pocket knifes ,stanleyknifes and kitchenknifes from their site.
Isn''t that a kind of discrimination?

LPCA · 26th February 2009, 11:38 AM

Bonjour, i do agree with you, Mandaukudi, Ebay have now a monopolistic position and their law is going to be harder particularly for the sellers. 1 negative notation and it's a suspension for sales for 4 weeks - time for them to judge your case, without of course asking the seller's point of view...
As for the knifes, impossible in France to sell a one inch blade....eaven if you home your item in another Ebay cie.
As you know, Ebay is the first car sellers in the world and now, they try to Invest the market of the real-estate.
They try hard to maintain their intermediary's juicy role to avoid any problem on the contents of purchases.
The justice does not follow them on that way ( they condamn Ebay for the Lancome case).
See U.
Louis-Pierre

fernando · 26th February 2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

...You can poke an eye out with a chopstick...

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

... And with a pencil... with your finger... with a knitting needle...

Don't forget screw drivers ... a fashion used in a determined African country the other day

Fernando

Royston · 26th February 2009, 03:49 PM

Strange that they do not mention Axes, cutlasses, bayonets or choppers.

Do you think the terms " Side arm " or "Sidearm" may become popular ?

If not then I am going to start eating my meals using rather " Large and Unusual " Ethnic Cutlery

Royston

Norman McCormick · 27th February 2009, 12:17 AM

E-Bay,
I'm not quite sure what is going to be gained from this 'blanket' ban. O.K. some unsavoury characters are not going to get their hands on 'housecarl katana can chop iron' or '20 inch camping/hunting knife 440 stainless' but where there's a will there's a way. In 1950's/60's Glasgow, where I was born, brought up and still live, the "chibs" of choice were 1) the open razor, 2) the hammer, 3) the axe, all normal household items in those days and all readily available and concealable, bayonets were quite plentiful also as after two world wars a lot of households had their battle trophy brought back by dad or grandad. Most knife crime, 80% I believe, is committed using kitchen knives so possibly not a lot will change. Please pardon the "rant" but I am constantly confused these days as to where the rationale for some decisions comes from.
Regards to All,
Norman.

P.S. As I don't have a Credit Card, "Presbyterian Prudence", I was only able to put bids on a Katar and an Axe.

Rick · 27th February 2009, 02:31 AM

Have to take it up with your government I guess ........

Norman McCormick · 27th February 2009, 06:16 PM

Hi Rick,
The position of the U.K. Government is o.k. as there is no problem in buying/collecting antique weapons it's the inability or unwillingness of E-Bay U.K. to positively discriminate as to what is acceptable and what is not. I don't suppose with the volume they, E-Bay, deal with that the solution is necessarily that easy but even an antique weapons section would not be too difficult to moderate or police effectively. I think these days that the actions of antisocial minorities impinge more on the law abiding majority than ever before and of course this problem is down to the Politicians and Law Makers/Enforcers i.e. as you say, the Government. Enough moaning I think, there are plenty of local auctions etc. here so there are still sources for reasonably priced pieces to to satisfy the "thirst" !!!
My Regards,
Norman.

23rd February 2009, 03:09 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Ebay UK bans all knives. Looks like the announcement has been finalised: From 10th March 2009, all knives and swords except cutlery will be banned from sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. The definition of cutlery includes those implements which can be used for eating, including cutlery sets, individual pieces of cutlery and antique cutlery. All other items, including knives used in the preparation of food will be banned, including (but not limited to); # antique knives # bread knives # craft knives # Stanley knives # camping/ survival/ hunting knives # diving knives # kitchen knives # Swiss Army knives and Leathermans # all swords

27th February 2009, 12:17 AM	#12
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	E-Bay, I'm not quite sure what is going to be gained from this 'blanket' ban. O.K. some unsavoury characters are not going to get their hands on 'housecarl katana can chop iron' or '20 inch camping/hunting knife 440 stainless' but where there's a will there's a way. In 1950's/60's Glasgow, where I was born, brought up and still live, the "chibs" of choice were 1) the open razor, 2) the hammer, 3) the axe, all normal household items in those days and all readily available and concealable, bayonets were quite plentiful also as after two world wars a lot of households had their battle trophy brought back by dad or grandad. Most knife crime, 80% I believe, is committed using kitchen knives so possibly not a lot will change. Please pardon the "rant" but I am constantly confused these days as to where the rationale for some decisions comes from. Regards to All, Norman. P.S. As I don't have a Credit Card, "Presbyterian Prudence", I was only able to put bids on a Katar and an Axe. Last edited by Norman McCormick; 27th February 2009 at 12:38 AM.

23rd February 2009, 04:20 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Just to 'rub it in'.....the ban starts on my Birthday Had been hoping eBay may have reconsidered their 'stance' Regards David

23rd February 2009, 05:34 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	Hi Guys, Anybody had any dealings with specialistauctions.com , just wondered if this might be a viable alternative for the U.K. Regards, Norman.

23rd February 2009, 06:05 PM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Pfew... I guess this makes the UK a saver place. Now lets hope that all criminals take their responsabillity and don't start using kitchen knives for their crimes. Because before you know the whole UK will be eating with chopsticks Amazing that serious business people like ebay can take such decissions and still look in the mirror each day

23rd February 2009, 06:28 PM	#5
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	Whoa there!!!!! You can poke an eye out with a chopstick.

24th February 2009, 04:34 AM	#7
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Sheesh, I'll bet you can buy a three foot long katana shaped letter opener (foot? I meant inch ) already. Good grief. I wonder how many hours it will take before people figure out how to crack the filters and sell knives anyway? F

26th February 2009, 11:38 AM	#9
LPCA Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toulouse - FRANCE Posts: 83	Bonjour, i do agree with you, Mandaukudi, Ebay have now a monopolistic position and their law is going to be harder particularly for the sellers. 1 negative notation and it's a suspension for sales for 4 weeks - time for them to judge your case, without of course asking the seller's point of view... As for the knifes, impossible in France to sell a one inch blade....eaven if you home your item in another Ebay cie. As you know, Ebay is the first car sellers in the world and now, they try to Invest the market of the real-estate. They try hard to maintain their intermediary's juicy role to avoid any problem on the contents of purchases. The justice does not follow them on that way ( they condamn Ebay for the Lancome case). See U. Louis-Pierre

26th February 2009, 03:49 PM	#11
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	Strange that they do not mention Axes, cutlasses, bayonets or choppers. Do you think the terms " Side arm " or "Sidearm" may become popular ? If not then I am going to start eating my meals using rather " Large and Unusual " Ethnic Cutlery Royston

27th February 2009, 02:31 AM	#13
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Have to take it up with your government I guess ........

27th February 2009, 06:16 PM	#14
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	Hi Rick, The position of the U.K. Government is o.k. as there is no problem in buying/collecting antique weapons it's the inability or unwillingness of E-Bay U.K. to positively discriminate as to what is acceptable and what is not. I don't suppose with the volume they, E-Bay, deal with that the solution is necessarily that easy but even an antique weapons section would not be too difficult to moderate or police effectively. I think these days that the actions of antisocial minorities impinge more on the law abiding majority than ever before and of course this problem is down to the Politicians and Law Makers/Enforcers i.e. as you say, the Government. Enough moaning I think, there are plenty of local auctions etc. here so there are still sources for reasonably priced pieces to to satisfy the "thirst" !!! My Regards, Norman.