Spanish Colonial Dagger

Robert · 21st October 2006, 04:53 PM

A nice Spanish Colonial dagger from the Philippines probably Luzon. Horn grip, steel fittings and guard. Guard has brass finials. Late 19th to early 20th century. Comments welcome.

Total length 15-1/2"
Blade length 12-1/2"
Blade width at widest 7/8"
Hilt length 5"

Lew · 21st October 2006, 05:04 PM

Sweet!

Lew

Rick · 21st October 2006, 05:26 PM

Nice weapon;nice condition.
I like examples like these; the working stuff .

Tim Simmons · 21st October 2006, 06:42 PM

Nice! I need one.

joshualayne · 21st October 2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Nice! I need one.

my sentiments exactly

Robert · 21st October 2006, 08:08 PM

Here is another Spanish Colonial dagger/short sword but I'm not really sure of where it is from. Could be from Mexico, Cuba, or the South Western United States. I don't believe it is from the Philippines because of the fittings. I think it is also late 19th or early 20th century. Sorry about the poor quality of the pictures I had to take the them inside today because it's raining outside. I wish that I could say that I took the pictures of the above dagger but I didn't.

The grip is horn and the fittings and guard are steel like the one above. Because of the lighting the blade looks shiny but it really looks like the above dagger. Sorry but no sheath for this one. Comments and help are always welcome.

Total length 21-1/2"
Blade length 16-13/16"
Blade width at widest 1-1/8"
Hilt length 4-5/16"

Jim McDougall · 22nd October 2006, 03:30 AM

Hi Robert,
Extremely interesting pieces that recall a bayonet form that I believe was from another Spanish colonial location in Central America (not near books at the moment so cannot cite positively).
It seems the sectioned hilt form is very much like early Mexican sabres with multibranched guards as well as straight bar crossguards with the same type terminals. I believe these came from eastern Mexico around 1820's and these have been found in New Orleans so suggest activity with ports on that side of Mexico such as Veracruz. Naturally trade from these ports connected with trade routes to the Philippines, so the style could easily have carried there.
They truly are interesting, especially the fingerguards. If anyone has a copy of Levines Knives 1985 I think it is..please check in there for the bayonet I mentioned with the ring guard.
All the best,
Jim

21st October 2006, 04:53 PM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Spanish Colonial Dagger A nice Spanish Colonial dagger from the Philippines probably Luzon. Horn grip, steel fittings and guard. Guard has brass finials. Late 19th to early 20th century. Comments welcome. Total length 15-1/2" Blade length 12-1/2" Blade width at widest 7/8" Hilt length 5" Attached Images

21st October 2006, 08:08 PM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Here is another Spanish Colonial dagger/short sword but I'm not really sure of where it is from. Could be from Mexico, Cuba, or the South Western United States. I don't believe it is from the Philippines because of the fittings. I think it is also late 19th or early 20th century. Sorry about the poor quality of the pictures I had to take the them inside today because it's raining outside. I wish that I could say that I took the pictures of the above dagger but I didn't. The grip is horn and the fittings and guard are steel like the one above. Because of the lighting the blade looks shiny but it really looks like the above dagger. Sorry but no sheath for this one. Comments and help are always welcome. Total length 21-1/2" Blade length 16-13/16" Blade width at widest 1-1/8" Hilt length 4-5/16" Attached Images Last edited by Robert Coleman; 21st October 2006 at 08:24 PM.

21st October 2006, 05:04 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Sweet! Lew

21st October 2006, 05:26 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Nice weapon;nice condition. I like examples like these; the working stuff .

21st October 2006, 06:42 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Nice! I need one.

22nd October 2006, 03:30 AM	#7
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,951	Hi Robert, Extremely interesting pieces that recall a bayonet form that I believe was from another Spanish colonial location in Central America (not near books at the moment so cannot cite positively). It seems the sectioned hilt form is very much like early Mexican sabres with multibranched guards as well as straight bar crossguards with the same type terminals. I believe these came from eastern Mexico around 1820's and these have been found in New Orleans so suggest activity with ports on that side of Mexico such as Veracruz. Naturally trade from these ports connected with trade routes to the Philippines, so the style could easily have carried there. They truly are interesting, especially the fingerguards. If anyone has a copy of Levines Knives 1985 I think it is..please check in there for the bayonet I mentioned with the ring guard. All the best, Jim