Phil. items in London, Paris, & Berlin museums?

[migueldiaz]

Hello all! I need some help, please Would anybody know whether there's a museum in London that has Phil. edged weapons? (I'll be there next week).

For instance, would the Victoria & Albert Museum have those, given its vast collection?

Then the week after next, I'll be in Paris and will visit Musée du quai Branly which has many Phil. items (pics att.), like these Palawan badung, Moro barungs, Moro kampilans, Moro krises, Moro armors, Moro shields, Lumad shields, Lumad armor, and many others.

Actually I'm not sure yet whether said French museum will allow me to take a look at those items, given that they appear to be in storage. But I already sent them a letter-request.

But in case there are other French museums which might have Phil. blades, then I hope somebody can post here the location/s.

After Paris, it's Amsterdam & Leiden and I already know where to go (thanks again to Arjan). Then after, it's Berlin -- would anybody know whether there's a museum there by any chance that has Phil. or Southeast Asian ethnic weapons?

And I do hope that my wife will not see this post, otherwise my hidden agenda will be exposed prematurely, and she might torpedo this Europe vacation of ours

[Nonoy Tan]

I think your wife is already anticipating your agenda, hahahaha!

[colin henshaw]

The Pitt-Rivers Museum in Oxford is a must....

[migueldiaz]

@nonoy, haha. methinks now you also have tried it before, only to crash and burn levity aside, any cordillera item i'll stumble upon will surely come your way.

@colin, many thanks for the tip! will surely check it out. thanks again

lorenz

[Dom]

Originally Posted by migueldiaz

Hello all! I need some help, please Would anybody know whether there's a museum in London that has Phil. edged weapons? (I'll be there next week).

For instance, would the Victoria & Albert Museum have those, given its vast collection?

Then the week after next, I'll be in Paris and will visit Musée du quai Branly which has many Phil. items ... snip ...
Actually I'm not sure yet whether said French museum will allow me to take a look at those items, given that they appear to be in storage. But I already sent them a letter-request.

But in case there are other French museums which might have Phil. blades, then I hope somebody can post here the location/s.

Hi lorenz
all ethnographic museums in Paris or suburbs were grouped into a single one, these of the "Quai Branly"
if the museum responds to your request, you will be a very lucky person,
unfortunately in France ... those in charge of administration, are not often very available,
unless you are well introduced by influential persons ...
otherwise, if you may bring the prove that, it's a need, to carry out an academic work,
as part of studies or the support for a thesis, with the goal of a Ph.D. ...
I'm very sorry, and I'm shame to don't be very optimistic

tomorrow I gonna call them, to know, if they are answering to such special requests,
and if you'll be or not allowed to take pictures ... I think ... yes for the second point
there is not long time ago, I went for an exhibition of Arab Bedouin robes of the Middle East,
and I took all pictures as I wished, with and without flash

when do you expect to be in Paris precisely ? ... may be we'll have the opportunity to meet us, but ....
we'll be absent from mid-September to end December ... we'll be in Egypt

Originally Posted by migueldiaz

And I do hope that my wife will not see this post ...

no worry, there is a solution
during your museums visit, my wife could take care of your spouse, and take her in stores ...
not those for tourists ... where they'll empty her wallet for nothing ... but where she knows where it's the cheapest,
and then together you will find yourself at home over tea, or something else
if your dates coincide with ours

all the best

à +

Dom

ps/my data by private message

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Dom

Hi lorenz

all ethnographic museums in Paris or suburbs were grouped into a single one, these of the "Quai Branly" ...

Hi Dom! Wow, super ... merci beaucoup!

Thanks for all the tips, assistance, and invitation. Much appreciated indeed! I feel better already

Yes, it looks like the museum would be unable to reply to our letter-request. Actually, it was even written in French, and signed by a retired Filipino professor (Dr. Zeus Salazar, and he's the one mentoring me, in the study of the ethnic weapons of our islands) who got his PhD in Sorbonne with flying colors. But so far, no answer still. Hence, I truly appreciate very much your plan to make the call. Many thanks in advance (regardless of the outcome). I can also send you by PM our letter in case that would somehow help in the follow-up to the museum.

We will be arrive in Paris from London, on the morning of Aug. 28 (Tue.). Then we go to Amsterdam on Aug. 31 (Fri.). Thus we are definitely free starting the afternoon of Aug. 28, and the whole days of Aug. 29 & 30. We will be traveling with our eldest daughter by the way (she's 24 years old).

Which leads us to the [off-topic] of shopping -- my wife and daughter would be ecstatic if the plan that your dear wife and them can get together! I'll just send by PM the other details.

That idea of yours is surely a Solomonic approach -- the men and the women can go off on their respective merry ways.

Aside from visiting the museum, I surely look forward with anticipation to meeting you in person, assuming the schedules would match. Am surely hoping it will.

Best wishes!

Lorenz

[Nonoy Tan]

Lorenz, you may want to consider The Museum of Ethnology at Dresden. It should have specimens that were collected during the last quarter of 19th century Philippines.

[Nonoy Tan]

Lorenz, I forgot to mention...

Inform the Musée du quai Branly that you are a collector from the Philippines. That might get their attention as those guys have been scouting for specimens to borrow from collectors based in the Philippines (for an exhibit they are preparing).

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Nonoy Tan

Lorenz, I forgot to mention...

Inform the Musée du quai Branly that you are a collector from the Philippines. That might get their attention as those guys have been scouting for specimens to borrow from collectors based in the Philippines (for an exhibit they are preparing).

Thanks Nonoy
I am working on ...
today, I came into contact with them, and I'll help Lorenz as far as I may

in the meantime,
here's a link to enter virtually in the collections "Filipino" of "Quai Branly" museum
http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/resultats.aspx?b=1&t=2
sorry, if the page is in French ...

I saw, that we've in display, the integrability of the collection included for items from Philippines,
and more specially, the items who are not exhibited
all the best

à +

Dom

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Dom

Thanks Nonoy
I am working on ... today, I came into contact with them, and I'll help Lorenz as far as I may

Many thanks, Dom. And I just PM'd you our letter-request to the museum, and the attachment of the email which is written in French and signed by the Sorbonne alumnus. Appreciate very much your kind assistance!

Lorenz

[Lee]

While in London, I'd be sure to check out the British Museum; as I recall they have a few Filipino things on display here and there. And I'll second the suggestion of a day trip over to Oxford for the Pitt Rivers Museum. There are also a few items displayed at the Royal Armouries if you have the time for a day trip to Leeds.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Dom

in the meantime,
here's a link to enter virtually in the collections "Filipino" of "Quai Branly" museum
http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/resultats.aspx?b=1&t=2
sorry, if the page is in French ...

I saw, that we've in display, the integrability of the collection included for items from Philippines,
and more specially, the items who are not exhibited

sorry to everybody,
I just realized that I gave a link who is not good
in fact, it is not transferable, so for Lorenz, I have prepared a tutorial
Here it is, for those are interested
thanks for your understanding

to reach the "Quai Branly" collections by internet (not easy ..) I found the pathway
(English version doesn't play) here a tutorial
in the menu of the presentation page, http://www.quaibranly.fr/ ... click on
=> BASE DE DONNÉES then from the scrolling menu, click
=> LE CATALOGUE DES OBJETS, choose "SIMPLE"
at right, the chapter "LE CATALOGUE DES OBJETS" is open,
choose, in; "SÉLECTIONNER UN GROUPE D'OBJETS"
=> COLLECTION DES OBJETS,
then, a little bit down,
=> SÉLECTIONNER UN CRITÈRE DE RECHERCHE, from there
you leave as it is; TOUS LES CRITÈRES DE RECHERCHES, then, the next at right you enter in FRENCH language (stupid site doesn't understand english request)
=> ASIE
and click on "LANCER LA RECHERCHE"
a new page open's, and you have a choise, with several continents mentionned, included
- Asie(71103) ... items
- Océanie(92) ... items
after have clicked on "Asie", you will open an other sub-chapter
- Asie centrale(505)
- Asie orientale(12309)
- Asie méridionale(19393)
- Asie du sud-est(28941)
- Asie occidentale(5366)
- Géographie physique et culturelle(3632)
- Asie septentrionale(1980)


I very, very disappointed, because I know Lorenz received a negative response from museum to gain access to reserves
- request receives too late
- holidays of the museum staff
has been the main arguments

à +

Dom

[Nonoy Tan]

Thanks, Dom. You are selfless.

Do let me and Lorenz know if you will be visiting the Philippines, so we can bring you around.

Nonoy

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Nonoy Tan

Lorenz, you may want to consider The Museum of Ethnology at Dresden. It should have specimens that were collected during the last quarter of 19th century Philippines.

Nonoy, many thanks for the tip! You continue to amaze me But we have very little time in Berlin -- hence I have to figure out how to get to Dresden and back to Berlin within the same day. Thanks very much for the lead!

Originally Posted by Nonoy Tan

Lorenz, I forgot to mention... Inform the Musée du quai Branly that you are a collector from the Philippines. That might get their attention as those guys have been scouting for specimens to borrow from collectors based in the Philippines (for an exhibit they are preparing).

This is one avenue to explore for sure. But my problem is that our email to the museum apparently did not reach them. So the contact has not been established yet. But Dom is trying his best to make the connection on our behalf. Thanks again, Nonoy.