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Old 1st May 2024, 03:57 PM   #1
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Thanks for the links, but I could not find the article that the first like was supposed to take me to and got an error message on the second one. What am I doing wrong?

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Try this:
https://historical-weapons.com/wp-co...io_13_2024.pdf
https://elar.urfu.ru/bitstream/10995...03_135-140.pdf

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Hi Yuri,

Many thanks for the links. Unfortunately they are in Cyrillic script, so I will have a difficult time in reading them. Do you know of an English translation?

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Many thanks for the links. Unfortunately they are in Cyrillic script, so I will have a difficult time in reading them. Do you know of an English translation?

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Hi Chris

Unfortunately, the articles are only in Russian. But if you are interested in this topic, I advise you to take up translation. A very interesting study. Google to the rescue.

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Unfortunately, the articles are only in Russian. But if you are interested in this topic, I advise you to take up translation. A very interesting study. Google to the rescue.

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Hi Yuri,

Any chance of you writing a short summary of these papers? I have not had much luck with translating technical papers with Google.

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Any chance of you writing a short summary of these papers? I have not had much luck with translating technical papers with Google.

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Hi Chris

Unfortunately, I can only give an abstract of the article:

Khaidakov K.S., Sukhanov D.A. (2024). Himicheskij sostav klinkov kak atribucionnyj priznak bulatnyh stalej Indo-Persidskogo regiona XVI-XIX vekov [Chemical composition of blades as an attributing feature for bulat steels of the Indo-Persian region of the 17th-19th centuries]. Istoricheskoe oruzhievedenie [Weapons History Journal], № 13, pp. 161 — 266.

Chemical composition of blades as an attributing feature for bulat steels of the Indo-Persian region of the 17th-19th centuries Kamil S. Khaidakov — private researcher in the field of oriental historical weapons (Moscow, Russia).

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Dr. Dmitry A. Sukhanov — the Director of the ASK-MSC Company (metallurgy), (Moscow, Russia).

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Abstract: The article is devoted to historical bulat blades of the Indo-Persian region. Based on a range of sources, the article reveals that comprehensive studies on historical bulat steels have been sporadic over the last hundred years due to an insufficient number of bulat samples suitable for experiments to determine patterns between steel composition, structure and properties. Attention is drawn to the fact that attribution of certain bulat blades from the collection of K.S. Khaidakov and D.A. Sukhanov raised doubts about their production time and their region of origin.

Standard typological attributive features of oriental bulat blades were combined with changes occurred in the Modern Period (the 16th – 19th centuries) with charge and fluxes of crucible process. As a result, a trend was revealed in the presence/absence of a certain number of permanent impurities in patterned steels, which are found only in the Indo-Persian region before the beginning of the 19th century.
The research result marks out that not all crucible steels which have a distinctive pattern on the blade surface can be considered as bulat by chemical composition. The article describes in detail and confirmes on specific examples the chemical sign of attribution by the quantitative content of permanent impurities.

The article presents new data concerning chemical composition of 20 collectible bulat blades of the 17th-19th centuries, including shamshirs by Asad (Asadullah) of Isfahan. It also outlines various types of patterns from the private collections of K.S. Khaidakov and D.A. Sukhanov with the indication of their corresponding chemical composition.

The authors conclude that in terms of chemical composition, macro- and microstructure, Indo-Persian bulat crucible steels form a separate group of historical blade steels, which were produced before the changes in traditional metallurgical production of the Indo-Persian region under the influence of new European technologies.

Keywords: Indo-Persian bulat steel, crucible process, chemical composition, shamshir.

Chris contact the author Khaidakov K. by email. Kamil is a well-known researcher and author of several books in the field of oriental historical weapons. Perhaps he is present on this forum.

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Unfortunately, I can only give an abstract of the article: <snip>
Hi Yuri,

Very much appreciated!

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