A couple interesting knives

wildwolberine · 16th September 2023, 12:28 AM

Sharing these two recent acquisitions. I haven’t seen anything quite like either so I’m hoping a forum member can help. I don’t believe they are especially rare or desirable but they’re both well made with nice leather sheaths.

Top: I thought this was puukko adjacent. Utilitarian wood hilt with dog-leg at end. Chisel ground blade marked “IND”. Leather sheath with loop. Blade 11 cm, OAL 26 cm

Bottom: Central Asia? Hilt comprised of multicolored clear plastic discs. Brass guard and fittings. Extensive ornamentation - floral patterns, rhinestones etc. Tubular leather scabbard like a puukko, with a retention strap. Embossed pattern. I suspect this is a tourist piece but it’s well made and functional. Blade 13 cm, OAL 23 cm

Coincidentally, these have remarkably similar sheaths.

Interested Party · 16th September 2023, 04:04 PM

The top one marked IND is familiar, but I just can't quite place it. Is it's choil sharpened with a chisel edge as well as its blade?

wildwolberine · 16th September 2023, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

The top one marked IND is familiar, but I just can't quite place it. Is it's choil sharpened with a chisel edge as well as its blade?

Thanks! No, the choil isn’t sharpened.

A. G. Maisey · 16th September 2023, 08:27 PM

The IND one is Bali or close by.

Ren Ren · 16th September 2023, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wildwolberine

Bottom: Central Asia? Hilt comprised of multicolored clear plastic discs. Brass guard and fittings. Extensive ornamentation - floral patterns, rhinestones etc. Tubular leather scabbard like a puukko, with a retention strap. Embossed pattern. I suspect this is a tourist piece but it’s well made and functional. Blade 13 cm, OAL 23 cm

This knife is typical of Uyghur knives from Xinjiang China. Due to severe restrictions on the production and sale of traditional Uyghur knives, they are becoming quite rare.

Ren Ren · 16th September 2023, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The IND one is Bali or close by.

The leather sheath rather points in the direction of the Philippines.

wildwolberine · 17th September 2023, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ren Ren

This knife is typical of Uyghur knives from Xinjiang China. Due to severe restrictions on the production and sale of traditional Uyghur knives, they are becoming quite rare.

Thanks! That’s interesting. I was able to find this knife online, the origin is Hotan, southwestern Xinjiang.

wildwolberine · 17th September 2023, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The IND one is Bali or close by.

Thanks! The blade profile resembles the Balinese “mutik” utility knife. The sheath resembles other Balinese sheaths I found online. Could not find an exact match for the handle, but that certainly narrows it down.

A. G. Maisey · 17th September 2023, 09:56 AM

The blade of the one I ID as Bali is typical of most Balinese work knives --- I'm assuming it is chisel grind, if it is not, then I'm wrong.

The hilt is not typical of Bali, but I have seen a couple of Bali knives years ago with a similar hilt. Usually Bali hilts will have a central ridge along the underside.

The leatherwork is very typical of Bali.

wildwolberine · 17th September 2023, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The blade of the one I ID as Bali is typical of most Balinese work knives --- I'm assuming it is chisel grind, if it is not, then I'm wrong.

The hilt is not typical of Bali, but I have seen a couple of Bali knives years ago with a similar hilt. Usually Bali hilts will have a central ridge along the underside.

The leatherwork is very typical of Bali.

Thanks! Yes, the blade has a chisel grind. The hilt definitely has a central ridge or keel. I think we’ve pinned this one down!

wildwolberine · 8th July 2024, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The blade of the one I ID as Bali is typical of most Balinese work knives --- I'm assuming it is chisel grind, if it is not, then I'm wrong.

The hilt is not typical of Bali, but I have seen a couple of Bali knives years ago with a similar hilt. Usually Bali hilts will have a central ridge along the underside.

The leatherwork is very typical of Bali.

I found another one of these Balinese utility knives. Similar to the first, but this has a wood sheath

milandro · 11th July 2024, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The IND one is Bali or close by.

It certainly makes me think of the many knives with text which we see in the NL.

Almost all (even when the shape is not typical from there ) are originally from Tjekeroeh

16th September 2023, 12:28 AM	#1
wildwolberine Member Join Date: May 2023 Location: San Antonio Posts: 108	A couple interesting knives Sharing these two recent acquisitions. I haven’t seen anything quite like either so I’m hoping a forum member can help. I don’t believe they are especially rare or desirable but they’re both well made with nice leather sheaths. Top: I thought this was puukko adjacent. Utilitarian wood hilt with dog-leg at end. Chisel ground blade marked “IND”. Leather sheath with loop. Blade 11 cm, OAL 26 cm Bottom: Central Asia? Hilt comprised of multicolored clear plastic discs. Brass guard and fittings. Extensive ornamentation - floral patterns, rhinestones etc. Tubular leather scabbard like a puukko, with a retention strap. Embossed pattern. I suspect this is a tourist piece but it’s well made and functional. Blade 13 cm, OAL 23 cm Coincidentally, these have remarkably similar sheaths. Attached Images

16th September 2023, 04:04 PM	#2
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 465	The top one marked IND is familiar, but I just can't quite place it. Is it's choil sharpened with a chisel edge as well as its blade?

16th September 2023, 08:27 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,888	The IND one is Bali or close by.

17th September 2023, 09:56 AM	#9
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,888	The blade of the one I ID as Bali is typical of most Balinese work knives --- I'm assuming it is chisel grind, if it is not, then I'm wrong. The hilt is not typical of Bali, but I have seen a couple of Bali knives years ago with a similar hilt. Usually Bali hilts will have a central ridge along the underside. The leatherwork is very typical of Bali.