Relic of a Javanese kriss whith original warangka

Athanase · 27th August 2018, 11:58 PM

Hello,

Here is a kriss I like a lot despite the ghostly state of his blade.
Lengh blade : 34cm Dapur : Cerita?
I had seen an instructive explanation of this type of warangka in Mr. Maisey's Catalog No. 74 (?). Unfortunately I made the mistake of not copying the text and I can't find this page.
The brass pendok seems to have been added later on the scabbard with a big bunch of glue, it seems to replace an old pendok or hide a wood too damaged.
The blade has a pamor but it is not determinable because covered with a layer of black wax.
The brass mendak is so damaged that it has almost disappeared.
The pretty bone handle lets guess a character under the tracery.

Any information on this type of sheath and handle is welcome.

Rafngard · 28th August 2018, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Athanase

I had seen an instructive explanation of this type of warangka in Mr. Maisey's Catalog No. 74 (?). Unfortunately I made the mistake of not copying the text and I can't find this page.

Hello,

I think you are referring to a Javanese keris patrem, with a wrongko in the Wulan Tumanggal form, and a gandar with red kemalo, from catalog # 74, which now lives with me. :-)

Mr. Maisey also mentioned that "this wrongko form has not been made in Java for a very long time, according to Harsrinuksmo (Ensiklopedi Keris) it has not been made since the end of the Kartosuro era (1680-1745)."

I hope this helps.

Thanks,
Leif

Jean · 28th August 2018, 09:48 AM

The hilt is in putrasatu style from East Java, see a rather similar specimen.
Regards

Athanase · 28th August 2018, 11:13 AM

Thank you for your help.

Jean · 28th August 2018, 06:00 PM

The gambar tumanggal of Athanase's kris is very nice and peculiar because of the longitudinal ridge on both sides but I doubt that it dates from the Kartasura period or before....
Regards

David · 28th August 2018, 07:18 PM

Well, i don't think that it is too important whether or not this wrongko was made during the Mataram/Kartosuro period or not, it is still a nice example of a fairly rare Javanese keris sheath and certainly worthy of collection just for this dress alone. The hilt is also pretty nice. I agree with Jean though that it is unlikely that the dress dates back as far as the 18th century, though it would not be impossible i suppose.
The blade, however, well may. It is a pity that it has undergone so much blade erosion. If it were mine i might find a decent mendak just to return some dignity to the ensemble.

27th August 2018, 11:58 PM	#1
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	Relic of a Javanese kriss whith original warangka Hello, Here is a kriss I like a lot despite the ghostly state of his blade. Lengh blade : 34cm Dapur : Cerita? I had seen an instructive explanation of this type of warangka in Mr. Maisey's Catalog No. 74 (?). Unfortunately I made the mistake of not copying the text and I can't find this page. The brass pendok seems to have been added later on the scabbard with a big bunch of glue, it seems to replace an old pendok or hide a wood too damaged. The blade has a pamor but it is not determinable because covered with a layer of black wax. The brass mendak is so damaged that it has almost disappeared. The pretty bone handle lets guess a character under the tracery. Any information on this type of sheath and handle is welcome. Attached Images

28th August 2018, 09:48 AM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	The hilt is in putrasatu style from East Java, see a rather similar specimen. Regards Attached Images

28th August 2018, 11:13 AM	#4
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	Thank you for your help.

28th August 2018, 06:00 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	The gambar tumanggal of Athanase's kris is very nice and peculiar because of the longitudinal ridge on both sides but I doubt that it dates from the Kartasura period or before.... Regards

28th August 2018, 07:18 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Well, i don't think that it is too important whether or not this wrongko was made during the Mataram/Kartosuro period or not, it is still a nice example of a fairly rare Javanese keris sheath and certainly worthy of collection just for this dress alone. The hilt is also pretty nice. I agree with Jean though that it is unlikely that the dress dates back as far as the 18th century, though it would not be impossible i suppose. The blade, however, well may. It is a pity that it has undergone so much blade erosion. If it were mine i might find a decent mendak just to return some dignity to the ensemble.