Berber flyssa + yatagan flyssa ?

francantolin · 11th July 2020, 08:37 PM

Hello everybody,

I wanted to show you these two small swords,

I think they are old algerian flyssas but with interesting ottoman influences :

one with a nice carved scabard and a silver/white metal hilt with a small guard who reminds me an ottoman style.

The second, a crude straight- little curved yatagan like blade but with a carateristic flyssa hilt shape.

Both north africans ? Algerians ?

What do you think ?

Kind regards

francantolin · 11th July 2020, 08:39 PM

and the yatagan-like...

TVV · 11th July 2020, 11:42 PM

Both are Algerian. There are multiple threads on the issue, but it generally appears that the flyssa originated from the yataghan. I have one that has retained many yataghan features, but shorter than your impressive example.

francantolin · 12th July 2020, 10:44 PM

Hello,
Thank you for your comment !
Congratulations for your sword ! Nice and complete with the scabbard !

In ''my model'',
the blade is not made with the same steel than the usual flyssas,
seems better steel made for fighting and no decorations,
that's why I wonder about it's origin.
but maybe it's different because it's just an older model ?...

For the second sword with the chiseled metal-silver hilt and the small guard,
I think it's not a common shape,
I wonder if this model was made for high ranked persons or chief or maybe a later change or just a fantasy ?

Kind regards

11th July 2020, 08:37 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 871	Berber flyssa + yatagan flyssa ? Hello everybody, I wanted to show you these two small swords, I think they are old algerian flyssas but with interesting ottoman influences : one with a nice carved scabard and a silver/white metal hilt with a small guard who reminds me an ottoman style. The second, a crude straight- little curved yatagan like blade but with a carateristic flyssa hilt shape. Both north africans ? Algerians ? What do you think ? Kind regards Attached Images

11th July 2020, 08:39 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 871	and the yatagan-like... Attached Images

11th July 2020, 11:42 PM	#3
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,620	Both are Algerian. There are multiple threads on the issue, but it generally appears that the flyssa originated from the yataghan. I have one that has retained many yataghan features, but shorter than your impressive example. Attached Images

12th July 2020, 10:44 PM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 871	Hello, Thank you for your comment ! Congratulations for your sword ! Nice and complete with the scabbard ! In ''my model'', the blade is not made with the same steel than the usual flyssas, seems better steel made for fighting and no decorations, that's why I wonder about it's origin. but maybe it's different because it's just an older model ?... For the second sword with the chiseled metal-silver hilt and the small guard, I think it's not a common shape, I wonder if this model was made for high ranked persons or chief or maybe a later change or just a fantasy ? Kind regards