Siwai/Siwah/Sewar dagger 19th Century ?

asomotif · 8th August 2008, 12:07 PM

This dagger claimed to be 19th ct.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=002

Any comments ? The blade looks rather poor to me compared with the scabbard etc.

Lew · 8th August 2008, 02:56 PM

What is interesting is that this seller had a few similar pieces all with the same quality blade and they all look like they came from the same shop? Some of the hilts seem ok but I would not want to take a chance since I am not that familar with these types of knives.

Lew

Bill M · 8th August 2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

What is interesting is that this seller had a few similar pieces all with the same quality blade and they all look like they came from the same shop? Some of the hilts seem ok but I would not want to take a chance since I am not that familar with these types of knives.

Lew

Same feeling here about the blades and the pieces. A lot of this piece is new-looking and artificially aged.

Rick · 8th August 2008, 06:21 PM

Not to mention CITES .
A thousand dollar gamble .

Silver work looks pretty nice; the rest ... not so much .

CharlesS · 8th August 2008, 08:50 PM

These look very much composite to me, perhaps even a blend of old and (very)new parts. The silver work in particular looks very recent, and when there is no patination around such work, especially on ivory hilts among some of the seller's other offerings, it makes me even more convinced it is newer work.

Battara · 9th August 2008, 04:40 AM

The silver work on this one seems especially new - the crown ferrule was a dead give-away to me. What also threw me off was the engraving - all of the best nobility pieces I have seen (or in pictures) have been chased or repoussed, not engraved.

asomotif · 11th August 2008, 12:16 PM

Thanks, I also got suspicious by someone offering so much pieces of 'high' quality that can still be found among the nobles on Sumatra.

Indonesia is becomming the new China I guess....

8th August 2008, 12:07 PM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Siwai/Siwah/Sewar dagger 19th Century ? This dagger claimed to be 19th ct. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=002 Any comments ? The blade looks rather poor to me compared with the scabbard etc. Last edited by asomotif; 8th August 2008 at 12:18 PM. Reason: Please move to general discussion (sorry)

8th August 2008, 02:56 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	What is interesting is that this seller had a few similar pieces all with the same quality blade and they all look like they came from the same shop? Some of the hilts seem ok but I would not want to take a chance since I am not that familar with these types of knives. Lew

8th August 2008, 06:21 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,291	Not to mention CITES . A thousand dollar gamble . Silver work looks pretty nice; the rest ... not so much .

8th August 2008, 08:50 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	These look very much composite to me, perhaps even a blend of old and (very)new parts. The silver work in particular looks very recent, and when there is no patination around such work, especially on ivory hilts among some of the seller's other offerings, it makes me even more convinced it is newer work.

9th August 2008, 04:40 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	The silver work on this one seems especially new - the crown ferrule was a dead give-away to me. What also threw me off was the engraving - all of the best nobility pieces I have seen (or in pictures) have been chased or repoussed, not engraved.

11th August 2008, 12:16 PM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Thanks, I also got suspicious by someone offering so much pieces of 'high' quality that can still be found among the nobles on Sumatra. Indonesia is becomming the new China I guess....