First Post - Identification Assistance Much Appreciated

[David]

Originally Posted by oariff

Thanks David and Sajen.

What do you think of this Keris Sajen / Majapahit. Old?

Another question - in terms of timeline, would it be sombro first or Sajen first?

Cheers.

Yes, this does appear to be a legitimately old keris sajen, but i don't really find it possible to get too exacting with ages on these since the form does not change much over the centuries. When more modern features are added to a sajen keris it becomes easier to classify it as a later variety, but the basic forms were also still be made later on.
I believe Empu Sombro was supposed to have lived during the middle Pajajaran in the 13th century. The date generally given for the beginning of the Mojopahit period is 1293, the very end of the 13th century. Keris Sajen are often called Keris Majapahit due to the belief that they came about during the Mojopahit era, but some seem to believe the form may have developed earlier. So that would make them somewhat contemporary to each other. That said, i have also see accounts that place Empu Sombro in the 10th century. So i'm not sure how much accuracy in these datings there actually is. Let's just say that both these forms seem to have come about in the early years of keris development.