4th July 2017, 03:58 PM | #1 |
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Laminated Kris for comment
I bought this kris recently because i liked that it was longer and wider than my other kris, it has 3 fuller lines, no separation line gangya.
i had cleaned it with 180,360, 400, 800, 1000 sandpaper then soaked in vinegar to etch. it showed some nice lamination patterns. i was hoping to find twist core somewhere but i can't. the baca-baca is some brass alloy (it had greenish tarnish before i had cleaned it.) the blade has some nice spring temper to it. and it is quite light for its size. to my inexperienced eye, i would estimate the age of this blade to not older than WW2. what do you guys think? i would appreciate your comments. maraming salamat. PBH |
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4th July 2017, 11:34 PM | #3 |
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fullers
thank you detlef, i tried sanding the fullers also, but the pittings are so deep. i will try to sand it again from time to time to minimize the pittings.
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5th July 2017, 08:50 AM | #4 |
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my other kris
here it is side by side with my other kris
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Yes, a post-WW2 era piece.
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I believe sanding will be more than tedious and some dedicated tools would fare much better. If you can find a metal file of suitable diameter and bend it, that should help to even out and deepen the fullers; that would certainly help to make this kris more attractive. Regards, Kai |
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6th July 2017, 02:24 AM | #6 |
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Hello Alan,
You can roll up low grit sandpaper to clean out the fullers (can go as low as 80). Use them dry. Then once clean go up to 200 with wet. This is a promising recent blade (I have something similar) but the corrosion on the fullers look to be a bit deep so you'd want to take them out. From Mang Venn? Joren |
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I sent a very nice kris off to someone for etching and for some reason they changed the tip to an acute point from its original semi rounded configuration. I wasn't at all happy about that. |
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6th July 2017, 04:23 AM | #8 |
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what can you say about the one with the fuller versus the one without?
which one do you estimate is older? which one is better made? which one could be of better value over time? fuller: spring tempered bendy, nice ringing sound when hit longer and wider fuller is crude brass fittings non fuller: better carvings on the ganga more rigid. not very bendy aluminum baca-baca (stirrups) brass collar i am asking because i am thinking of letting go of one and keeping the other. thanks! PBH |
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Obviously, any qualified restaurateur should always work with their client and communicate any suggested changes beforehand (most would argue that changes that can't be reversed are unacceptable, anyway). Regards, Kai |
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Hello Joren,
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I'd keep this one as is though. For developing your collection, go for real antique kris even if this means shopping in the US... Regards, Kai |
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7th July 2017, 01:04 PM | #12 |
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Looks like a growing collection.
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7th July 2017, 02:23 PM | #13 |
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Thank you guys.
as for the fuller, i wont be doing anymore sanding or filing, it may be more trouble than its worth. Kai, thank you for your insights, at first i thought the one with the fuller would be more valuable because of the laminations and spring temper and the brass fittings. buying from the USA may be a possibility down the road. if funds allow. Joren, the one with the fuller was not from Mang Ven but his son's shop. F de Luzon, yes it is a growing collection but i am experiencing birthing pains hahaha. I may be acquiring duds or non worthy pieces. must study more. thanks everyone! |
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