a parang by another name?

Marcus · 7th August 2016, 09:07 PM

This is on order from Oriental Arms. Artzi just refers to it as a Indonesian pedang. Information would be appreciated in narrowing down the where, when, and what. Once I get it in I'll be hoping for help on translating the inscriptions.
Marcus

asomotif · 7th August 2016, 11:21 PM

Hello Marcus,

It reminds me of this pedang :

http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...ghlight=pedang

Marcus · 8th August 2016, 02:15 AM

That seemed like it was indeed a similar parang but the discussion was not very productive. No one actually offered any translations that I saw.

Gavin Nugent · 8th August 2016, 10:42 AM

Marcus,

Have you invested in any books on the subjects that you have interest in?

Gavin

Sajen · 8th August 2016, 12:52 PM

Hello Marcus,

very nice pedang, think that it is from Lombok. But I think that the inscription is very recent. Sorry, can't help with the translation.
I would recommend to you the book from Albert G. Van Zonneveld, "Traditional Weapons Of The Indonesian Archipelago", ISBN 90-5450-004-2. It is a pedang and not a parang.

Best regards,
Detlef

Green · 8th August 2016, 01:03 PM

regarding the script... if it's in arabic script, it's a very bad scrawl... imagine a doctor's prescription writing. It's not legible at all and the writing is as though attempted by one who didn't know arabic script.

Sajen · 8th August 2016, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Green

regarding the script... if it's in arabic script, it's a very bad scrawl... imagine a doctor's prescription writing. It's not legible at all and the writing is as though attempted by one who didn't know arabic script.

Which would confirm that it is very recent, added to the blade for selling purpose.

Marcus · 8th August 2016, 01:37 PM

Of course, my (silly) mistake. I have the Zonneveld book. It is an excellent reference. This piece comes closest to Zonneveld's type II, but he only shows a single example. Could it be considered a Pedang lurus?

Sajen · 8th August 2016, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus

Could it be considered a Pedang lurus?

Lurus mean straight. First, your pedang isn't straight and second is this: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=pedang+lurus what I understand as pedang lurus.

Regards,
Detlef

Marcus · 8th August 2016, 11:45 PM

I introduced it as a parang because that was how Artzi identified it.

Sajen · 8th August 2016, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus

I introduced it as a parang because that was how Artzi identified it.

Thought like this!

Sajen · 8th August 2016, 11:55 PM

Here you can see three other examples of this type from pedang but there are a lot more in old threads: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=pedang

Here you can see many very nice ones more: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=pedang

7th August 2016, 09:07 PM	#1
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	a pedang by another name? This is on order from Oriental Arms. Artzi just refers to it as a Indonesian pedang. Information would be appreciated in narrowing down the where, when, and what. Once I get it in I'll be hoping for help on translating the inscriptions. Marcus Attached Images Last edited by Marcus; 8th August 2016 at 01:52 PM.

8th August 2016, 02:15 AM	#3
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	well now That seemed like it was indeed a similar parang but the discussion was not very productive. No one actually offered any translations that I saw.

8th August 2016, 01:37 PM	#8
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	pedang and not a parang Of course, my (silly) mistake. I have the Zonneveld book. It is an excellent reference. This piece comes closest to Zonneveld's type II, but he only shows a single example. Could it be considered a Pedang lurus?

8th August 2016, 11:45 PM	#10
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	pedang parang I introduced it as a parang because that was how Artzi identified it.

8th August 2016, 11:55 PM	#12
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,770	Here you can see three other examples of this type from pedang but there are a lot more in old threads: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=pedang Here you can see many very nice ones more: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=pedang Last edited by Sajen; 9th August 2016 at 11:48 AM. Reason: Adding another reference thread

7th August 2016, 11:21 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Hello Marcus, It reminds me of this pedang : http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...ghlight=pedang

8th August 2016, 10:42 AM	#4
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Marcus, Have you invested in any books on the subjects that you have interest in? Gavin

8th August 2016, 12:52 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,770	Hello Marcus, very nice pedang, think that it is from Lombok. But I think that the inscription is very recent. Sorry, can't help with the translation. I would recommend to you the book from Albert G. Van Zonneveld, "Traditional Weapons Of The Indonesian Archipelago", ISBN 90-5450-004-2. It is a pedang and not a parang. Best regards, Detlef

8th August 2016, 01:03 PM	#6
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 312	regarding the script... if it's in arabic script, it's a very bad scrawl... imagine a doctor's prescription writing. It's not legible at all and the writing is as though attempted by one who didn't know arabic script.