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Old 28th October 2024, 10:53 PM   #1
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Last May I visited the Landeszeughaus in Graz, Austria. Here are some pics of swords.
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Old 28th October 2024, 11:06 PM   #3
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Old 31st October 2024, 05:57 PM   #5
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Very cool photos, that must have been a very fun day at the museum. By the way, the "sun" or "cog wheel" markings in the fuller of the last walloon hilt in the third pic remind me a lot of some markings on a blade I own that I have not yet been able to figure out.

While the scale seems to be different, they definitely appear to me to be the same style of marking. Considering the other blades in the photo seem to be Genoese, I wonder if this symbol may be from there.

Below are a couple of pics for reference:
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More sword pics and of the building with bier keller at back
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A great place which I have have to visit myself too. One of the benefits of living in Europe is that those places aren´t far away.
Their published literature and sources are outstanding. I think this is the oldest Arsenal with continuous records. Thank you for sharing!
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Yes Europe is truly amazing. The armoury in Graz is well worth visiting but it was smaller than I thought and you need only half a day to see it. Also a bit annoying that Austria is becoming quite “woke.” I paid for guide at the armoury and this bloke turns up with a bushy beard and Fidel cap to offer his Marxist interpretation on everything.

I will post more pics later on the armour and polearms. There’s a Landhaus keller across the yard which serves excellent Wienerschnitzel (with cranberries) and refreshing local brew.
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I paid for guide at the armoury and this bloke turns up with a bushy beard and Fidel cap to offer his Marxist interpretation on everything.
What a nightmare when one just wants to hear details about the blades all around you at this place
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This is called a Fuhrmannsdusegge if anyone wonders. These were made for coachmen with space for cartriges in the scabbard. Around 1600 if I recall correctly.
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What a nightmare when one just wants to hear details about the blades all around you at this place
Yes it makes me fearful for the objects in the museums. That they are not fully appreciated by those in whose care they have been entrusted. The objects form part of our historical heritage.
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Usually those tourguides are just privateers or students who do this as a mini-job. It´s uncommon that they interact with the artifacts. One of my aunts has been tour guide at Malbork castle for one or two summers only. I think we can stay calm here.
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Yes it makes me fearful for the objects in the museums. That they are not fully appreciated by those in whose care they have been entrusted. The objects form part of our historical heritage.
I'm curious about what would make you fear for the integrity of the objects. I'm also very curious about what Marxist slant could be applied to discussing antique blades, but I'm not sure that fits the scope of the forum.
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Usually those tourguides are just privateers or students who do this as a mini-job. It´s uncommon that they interact with the artifacts. One of my aunts has been tour guide at Malbork castle for one or two summers only. I think we can stay calm here.
I hope you are right.
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I'm curious about what would make you fear for the integrity of the objects. I'm also very curious about what Marxist slant could be applied to discussing antique blades, but I'm not sure that fits the scope of the forum.
You are right that it doesnÂ’t fit the scope of the forum. ItÂ’s purpose is not to discuss politics but antique swords. I note that you chose not to comment on any of the pictures posted but preferred to zoom in on my text. My impression is that some of the objects could be better cared for. The guide mentioned that the museum used to employ five people to clean and take care of the objects, where they now only employ one. My concern is that as society changes, priorities change and in the process these historical objects might be seen as unimportant.
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