Long Barung

Spunjer · 30th June 2005, 07:02 PM

...thought i'd share some pics of this barung i just acquired. nothing spectacular about this 20thc piece save for one thing: its dimension.

OAL is 31.25 inches

just the blade is 25.25 inches

i've heard of some long barungs existed, but never knew it get this long! well i guess this would pair up quite nicely with my 28 inch blade kris, lol.

included are barungs that are somewhat 'normal' in length (13" to 20").

Battara · 30th June 2005, 08:56 PM

From what I understand from Ibeam and Cecil at Kris cutlery, this would fit the sipput barong catagory. The blade is narrow and long. However, my observation is that these types of barong are of a later date from the ones I have seen.

Spunjer · 30th June 2005, 09:04 PM

battara;
i think it's much later as well. i almost positively sure the ferrule is aluminum. would this more of a decor type barung, or was this actually carried around?

themorningstar · 1st July 2005, 05:50 AM

hey spunjer!
::waves hand::
you don't want to keep this barung...
::waves hand::
you want to give it to me...
::waves hand::
these aren't the droids your looking for...
hehehe...

Spunjer · 1st July 2005, 07:05 AM

themorningstar,

i'm so thick-headed, jedi mind tricks don't work, lol

Battara · 1st July 2005, 10:33 PM

Spunger, not sure. I do know that they still used barongs in WWII, but the quality is not the same as in the past. Thus the aluminum from downed planes.

RobT · 5th July 2005, 12:37 AM

Battara,
Could you tell me what "sipput" means and if my long barong fits in that category? The blade is 22 1/16" with a false back edge of 15 1/8". The blade is not very robust, being only 2 3/8" at its deepest point with a 3/16" spine at the hilt. The blade is also very springy so I assume it's made of spring steel like a machete. It appears that the sheath had mop inlays. It is currently being held together with paper wrapping and twist ties because three of the four wood pins that held the two halves together are missing. There is an an inletted design filled with what appears to be tar (gal gal?) at the top of the scabbard. There is also a series of round holes at the top and chape that appear to be filled with the same material. The hilt is rather sad. It looks like it was made from an old wooden walking stick handle that was jammed into a ferrule made of some sort of brass machine part. Does anyone know where I can get a modern reproduction barong hilt for a modest cost?
Sincerely,
RobT

themorningstar · 5th July 2005, 06:40 AM

its not a "barung" but its related.... and that's all i will comment..

Battara · 7th July 2005, 12:15 AM

As far as what "sipput" means.....I don't know nor do I know the etomology of that word (at present). However Ibeam told me he got the term from Cecil Qirino at Kris Cutlery. I do know that the barong sipput I sold Ibeam also had a springy blade, as thin, narrow, and long. I personally favor the earlier versions of the barong, which tend to be shorter, wider, and more likely to be laminated steel.

RobT, if your example is a barong sipput, it would fit the description above and my personal observation is that they are a later evolution of the barong, going well into the 20th century.

30th June 2005, 07:02 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Long Barung ...thought i'd share some pics of this barung i just acquired. nothing spectacular about this 20thc piece save for one thing: its dimension. OAL is 31.25 inches just the blade is 25.25 inches i've heard of some long barungs existed, but never knew it get this long! well i guess this would pair up quite nicely with my 28 inch blade kris, lol. included are barungs that are somewhat 'normal' in length (13" to 20"). Attached Images

5th July 2005, 12:37 AM	#7
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 489	My long barong Battara, Could you tell me what "sipput" means and if my long barong fits in that category? The blade is 22 1/16" with a false back edge of 15 1/8". The blade is not very robust, being only 2 3/8" at its deepest point with a 3/16" spine at the hilt. The blade is also very springy so I assume it's made of spring steel like a machete. It appears that the sheath had mop inlays. It is currently being held together with paper wrapping and twist ties because three of the four wood pins that held the two halves together are missing. There is an an inletted design filled with what appears to be tar (gal gal?) at the top of the scabbard. There is also a series of round holes at the top and chape that appear to be filled with the same material. The hilt is rather sad. It looks like it was made from an old wooden walking stick handle that was jammed into a ferrule made of some sort of brass machine part. Does anyone know where I can get a modern reproduction barong hilt for a modest cost? Sincerely, RobT Attached Images

30th June 2005, 08:56 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	From what I understand from Ibeam and Cecil at Kris cutlery, this would fit the sipput barong catagory. The blade is narrow and long. However, my observation is that these types of barong are of a later date from the ones I have seen.

30th June 2005, 09:04 PM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	battara; i think it's much later as well. i almost positively sure the ferrule is aluminum. would this more of a decor type barung, or was this actually carried around?

1st July 2005, 05:50 AM	#4
themorningstar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 55	hey spunjer! ::waves hand:: you don't want to keep this barung... ::waves hand:: you want to give it to me... ::waves hand:: these aren't the droids your looking for... hehehe...

1st July 2005, 07:05 AM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	themorningstar, i'm so thick-headed, jedi mind tricks don't work, lol

1st July 2005, 10:33 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Spunger, not sure. I do know that they still used barongs in WWII, but the quality is not the same as in the past. Thus the aluminum from downed planes.

5th July 2005, 06:40 AM	#8
themorningstar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 55	its not a "barung" but its related.... and that's all i will comment..

7th July 2005, 12:15 AM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	As far as what "sipput" means.....I don't know nor do I know the etomology of that word (at present). However Ibeam told me he got the term from Cecil Qirino at Kris Cutlery. I do know that the barong sipput I sold Ibeam also had a springy blade, as thin, narrow, and long. I personally favor the earlier versions of the barong, which tend to be shorter, wider, and more likely to be laminated steel. RobT, if your example is a barong sipput, it would fit the description above and my personal observation is that they are a later evolution of the barong, going well into the 20th century.