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Old 7th April 2022, 08:16 PM   #1
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Default another kindjal; big rivets and huge final ball

Hello dear members,

I have this kindjal to show you and ask about origin,

it is a mix of what seems ''average'' recent work with some fine silver wires ans details.

the blade seems good with maker's stamp and what it seems double etched fullers ( I don't think the blade is real damas but...)

I saw models like this one time ago with the long and large rivets but I can't find them anymore,

with the double fullers, I will say a russian model ?
but in the maker's stamp there is a signature in arabic,
so more caucasian ?

last question about the nielled mounts : hesitate between silver ( low grade ) or made of brass

Glad if someone can give me informations or the link for these models

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Old 8th April 2022, 07:53 PM   #2
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Those are some huge knobs on your qama/kindjal! }|:oP

I'm no expert but I've seen that stamp before on quadarra and qama typically identified as Persian or occasionally as from the Caucasus, such as the one attached (not mine).
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Old 8th April 2022, 08:15 PM   #3
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Actually, looking at it again, that's a terrible example. Those stamps look nothing alike. This one, listed as Russian, is perhaps a little closer. It has similarly larger-than-usual decorated rivets and double fullers with scrolling decorations.
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Old 9th April 2022, 09:45 PM   #4
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Hello and Thank's a lot Werecow for your comments,

Really nice quaddara ! sadly not yours ( neither mine )

what is uncommon in this kindjal are as you said these large knobs/rivets,
2cm/ 0,8 inches high
and a particularly thin but long blade : 3cm/1,2 inches at larger part of the blade
and scabbard with this huge final ball, 2,3cm/0,9 inches diameter

complex of the owner ?

more seriously, a caucasian habit ? from a close geographic area or fashioned sytyle in a period ( glad if we can defin-fix it when !)

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Old 10th April 2022, 09:06 AM   #5
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Here a foto of a Kama-dagger made in Dagestan. I think it is very similar to the piece in question.
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Old 16th April 2022, 11:28 PM   #6
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Hello and Thank's a lot Werecow for your comments,

Really nice quaddara ! sadly not yours ( neither mine )
Indeed. For now I'll have to make do with my kindjal (of the Caucasian variety; excuse the poor picture quality, my phone's camera is not great, especially in low light).
Oh and definitely take everything I say with a huge grain of salt, as I've only been collecting for a couple of years and my knowledge is still pretty limited.
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