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Old 30th May 2024, 04:51 PM   #1
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Hi All,

Will this be a Batak Piso?
A Name for it?
Can anybody perhaps elaborate on the motif / carving?
I see L-R: Centepede, Croc, Scorpion.

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Old 30th May 2024, 09:26 PM   #2
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Hello Oariff,

It's an early 20th century "tourist-knife" of good quality, see for example these three threads where similar carvings and fittings were used by different knives IMHO.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sewar
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22936
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23012

It's always used deer horn with a similar way of carving in a good execution. And with a good blade. Collectable in it's own way! Maybe all from the same workshop.

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Old 30th May 2024, 09:29 PM   #3
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Old 31st May 2024, 11:51 AM   #4
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When you read in the given threads you will find that the agreement is that these daggers and one sword are not of traditional workmanship. Two of these pieces I've handled, good forged blades. I for my part think these are pieces from the first quarter of the 20th century, made with very good workmanship and sold for high prices.
Everywhere in the world was an early tourism and many of these early travelers were looking for knives and swords. It was more in vogue as today to collect blades. So for example, high quality daggers (Vendetta dagger) were made in Corsica (ok, in Thiers) for the purpose of selling them to the visitors, as in the Canary Islands, the Balkans, Brazil, Argentina, ect.
All these are sought-after and well prized. I see these blades shown from Medan (?) in a similar line.

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Old 31st May 2024, 06:45 PM   #5
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It's an early 20th century "tourist-knife" of good quality, see for example these three threads where similar carvings and fittings were used by different knives IMHO.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sewar
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22936
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23012

It's always used deer horn with a similar way of carving in a good execution. And with a good blade. Collectable in it's own way! Maybe all from the same workshop.

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Hello Detlef,

Do you think this Sewar of mine is of the same category?

Thanks,
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Old 31st May 2024, 06:57 PM   #6
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Do you think this Sewar of mine is of the same category?
Hello Leif,

In principle yes, maybe it's a little later!

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Hello Leif,

In principle yes, maybe it's a little later!

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Mid 20th century was my guess.
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Mid 20th century was my guess.
Would agree.
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