Costa Navarino, Pylos,Greece, an amazing collection.

Sylektis · 9th June 2014, 09:06 PM

Hi guys,
I just came from Pylos,Greece and ιt was a big surprise to me the collection I found in public areas of the hotel Costa Navarino.
At first, a wondefull Greek knife dated 1768 and signed: "made by Nikourios" (I think that Elgood made a mistake by placing the production of the best of them in Boka Kotorska)

CharlesS · 9th June 2014, 10:59 PM

Looks like there is a stamp on the blade, and because this is both straight and has some unique fullering, I can't help but think this may have been built around a broken or cut down sword blade.

Any more pics of the blade?

eftihis · 11th June 2014, 01:36 PM

Here are 2 more photos from the blade.... Where did i found them? From my archive of past auctions, because this (Greek in my opinion) dagger was on auction some years ago...
But looking at the 3rd photo a made a really funny discovery! There was no inscription at the time the dagger was sold! It is clear from the third photo that the space of the inscription was empty....
Also the description of the auction does not mention any date or inscription...
Be careful guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sylektis · 11th June 2014, 06:19 PM

.........???????????????????
It's a shame....
Sorry Elgood...and I thought that I found solid proof for the Greek character of these objects....
Poor fellow owner....
Anyway, next are 4 Turkish yataghans. (One of them could be Cretan?)

Sylektis · 11th June 2014, 06:28 PM

And some details of them.

Sylektis · 15th June 2014, 10:36 PM

And the pistols.
Not found the swords, kariofillia, palaskes, medoularia e.t.c.that somewhere there must be.

Sylektis · 15th June 2014, 10:38 PM

And th elast four.

Ian · 15th July 2014, 06:10 PM

Eftihis:

When I first looked at the images you showed of the auction pictures compared with the recently found sword, I thought that they may have been twins rather than the same sword. However, when you put them side by side, the sheaths are indeed identical (except for the inscription, of course). Great eye and great memory!

Caveat emptor indeed!

Ian.

spiral · 15th July 2014, 10:32 PM

Says it all realy, Earlier photos look like the panel had had an inscription removed, then lo & behold its been inscribed again!

Would have been nice to see what the original inscription was.

Guess the moral is don't pay for inscriptions... just the item {Sadly true on many engraved kukri as well.}

Caveat emptor indeed!

Spiral

9th June 2014, 09:06 PM	#1
Sylektis Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	Costa Navarino, Pylos,Greece, an amazing collection. Hi guys, I just came from Pylos,Greece and ιt was a big surprise to me the collection I found in public areas of the hotel Costa Navarino. At first, a wondefull Greek knife dated 1768 and signed: "made by Nikourios" (I think that Elgood made a mistake by placing the production of the best of them in Boka Kotorska) Attached Images

11th June 2014, 01:36 PM	#3
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 507	Here are 2 more photos from the blade.... Where did i found them? From my archive of past auctions, because this (Greek in my opinion) dagger was on auction some years ago... But looking at the 3rd photo a made a really funny discovery! There was no inscription at the time the dagger was sold! It is clear from the third photo that the space of the inscription was empty.... Also the description of the auction does not mention any date or inscription... Be careful guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Attached Images

11th June 2014, 06:19 PM	#4
Sylektis Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	.........??????????????????? It's a shame.... Sorry Elgood...and I thought that I found solid proof for the Greek character of these objects.... Poor fellow owner.... Anyway, next are 4 Turkish yataghans. (One of them could be Cretan?) Attached Images

11th June 2014, 06:28 PM	#5
Sylektis Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	And some details of them. Attached Images

15th June 2014, 10:36 PM	#6
Sylektis Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	And the pistols. Not found the swords, kariofillia, palaskes, medoularia e.t.c.that somewhere there must be. Attached Images

9th June 2014, 10:59 PM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Looks like there is a stamp on the blade, and because this is both straight and has some unique fullering, I can't help but think this may have been built around a broken or cut down sword blade. Any more pics of the blade?

15th June 2014, 10:38 PM	#7
Sylektis Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 136	And th elast four. Attached Images

15th July 2014, 06:10 PM	#8
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,207	A little fakery Eftihis: When I first looked at the images you showed of the auction pictures compared with the recently found sword, I thought that they may have been twins rather than the same sword. However, when you put them side by side, the sheaths are indeed identical (except for the inscription, of course). Great eye and great memory! Caveat emptor indeed! Ian. Attached Images

15th July 2014, 10:32 PM	#9
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Says it all realy, Earlier photos look like the panel had had an inscription removed, then lo & behold its been inscribed again! Would have been nice to see what the original inscription was. Guess the moral is don't pay for inscriptions... just the item {Sadly true on many engraved kukri as well.} Caveat emptor indeed! Spiral