Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 6th June 2012, 04:42 PM   #1
carlos
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 738
Default Opinion about dagger

Hello everybody!
This is my last adquisition, a beatiful dagger with this measurement.
Size/Measurements: (approximate)
9-5/8" total length
6-1/8" blade length
5/8" blade width
Seems From Philippines, maybe horn and silver? I hope so!!
Opinions are welcome
Thanks in advance

carlos
Attached Images
       
carlos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2012, 05:46 PM   #2
Atlantia
Member
 
Atlantia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Sharp end
Posts: 2,928
Default

What a beauty!
Where's Robert?
Atlantia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2012, 07:49 PM   #3
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,226
Default

Yup! Looks northern Philippines to me in horn and silver. Looks to be around the turn of the 20th century and perhaps belonged to someone of status, like an officer or something. 1st Philippine republic.

Nice piece and congratulations!

Only thing is the nut at the butt is not original of course.
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2012, 11:00 PM   #4
Robert
EAAF Staff
 
Robert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Centerville, Kansas
Posts: 2,196
Default

Hello Carlos and congratulations on your new Philippine dagger. I totally agree with Jose on its age. I was also watching this item but was leery of bidding on it because of the poor picture quality and high starting price. In the pictures it looks like there could be what looks like a lot of epoxy residue on the hilt as if it was damaged and some repair work might have been done. Also the strange staining on the back side of the guard might be either oxidation, possibly peeling of plating or if it is plated where the plating has worn through. I'm hoping it is just oxidation. When it arrives clean the grooves in the hilt and I think you might be surprised and could find silver bands running in them. The shape of the grooves and the horn plugs at their ends indicate that there is a very good possibility that at one time it did have these and somewhere under the grunge they are still there and intact. Again my congratulations on your new addition and please let us know what you find when it arrives.


Robert

Last edited by Robert Coleman; 6th June 2012 at 11:11 PM.
Robert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th June 2012, 03:52 AM   #5
Lew
(deceased)
 
Lew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast USA
Posts: 3,191
Default

I was watching that one but the nut is not original and there was no scabbard Still a very nice early example.

Congrats
Lew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th June 2012, 04:00 AM   #6
ThePepperSkull
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 338
Default

Very nice example, but I echo lew's statement, that it doesn't have a scabbard and the nut at the buttend is not original..... So you're better off sending it over to me

No?

Okay, it was worth a shot
ThePepperSkull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th June 2012, 05:16 PM   #7
carlos
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 738
Default Thanks

Thanks all for your answers!!! I had doubts to bid or not, finally I didnīt bid adn after that I saw the auction relisted, to 99 $ buy it now and I bought it.
When arrived I will post more pictures

Thanks again
carlos
carlos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th June 2012, 06:09 PM   #8
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,226
Default

As I said it is a nice piece. Robert is right - the silver strip in the hilt needs to be polished to see it and the end needs a silver screw in cap.

You got it at a great buy.

One other thing - I doubt there is any silver plating on it.
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2012, 02:39 AM   #9
DaveA
Member
 
DaveA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 413
Default Katipunan Officer's Dagger

For comparison, here is a very similar knife in my collection, a Katipunan Officer's Dagger, probably from the Batangas region of the Philippines, circa revolution of 1889-1902. Unlike the officers who carried blades of this type, rank and file members of Katipuna typically carried a bolo tabak (machete).

This knife is 14 inches in overall length. The diamond cross-section blade is 9.5 inches long. Brass guard. The dark hilt is turned kamagong or carabao horn and inlaid with twisted brass wire. The scabbard is leather, in fine condition, with silver mounts.
Attached Images
 
DaveA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2012, 10:21 AM   #10
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,794
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveA
Unlike the officers who carried blades of this type, rank and file members of Katipuna typically carried a bolo tabak (machete).
Hello Dave,

since you seems to be sure about this I think you have seen a picture or more where you can see this. Can you post this picture?

Regards,

Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.