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Hello Gents,
A friend of mine obtained this jambiya. For me the hilt seems to be pure Yemeni, however I doubt about the scabbard - I bet it's either Oman or Saudi. What do you guys think? BR, ![]() ![]() Maybe some frontier areas? |
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Hi BR,
I would agree with Louie - a composite jambiya, probably southern Saudi. I don't think Yemen, as the dagger, chape and belt look more Asir/Najran. For an equivalent piece look at Gav's site, www.swordsantiqueweapons.com, item no. s092 sold. Steve |
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Hi my Friends
you make me laugh gently, with your notions of borders ... in these countries only the concept of ethnicity has a meaning your tribe is originally from which country, don't make sens for them what makes sens is; what did you relate to this or that ethnic group, these ethnic groups can and often are cross-border and do not recognize the territorial sovereignty of each state, which creates conflicts for generations and generations e.i. the boundary of the territories claimed, or badly identifiable on spot either by Saudi or Yemen (Rub‘ al-Khâlî, seems to be settle in 2000) Egypt and Sudan (Hala'ib triangle) till yet pending to return to our subject, even for the Saudis, the blacksmiths were, and might be still are (?) Yemenis, until "Gulf War" it's was like that ... at least their production was according with the specific taste of their buyers, khanjar for some and jambiya for the others for instance, Saudis were ... are more "merchants" than "manufacturers" I remember have seen at Jeddah (at bottom of Bedouin suk) in year 80th Yemenis blacksmith producing all type of metal items (also, silver "saïf" handle) parts for pistols and rifles ![]() ![]() nothing it's so Manichean, specially in those countries of Middle-East ![]() and your dagger looks more Yemeni in general shape did you noticed that the blades are all the same ![]() excepted for the jambiya Mecca type who is very long, but Khandjar (Saudi, Osmani, Qatari) or Jambiya Yemenis have the same blades, the differences are with the hilt, as well as the scabbards à + Dom |
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Here are two examples of scabbards showing the "composite" top in the right place. Even the hilts look similar to the "composite" piece.
Thank you Dom for your definition of "borders". Maybe we collectors should be describing the origin of these jambiya as the TRIBE from which they come, rather than the country! Regards Stuart |
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![]() Anyway, thanks a lot. |
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as well as ... my son born in Jeddah (true) is 100% French, anyway ![]() à + Dom |
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