First Keris - Comments Please!

JeffS · 3rd February 2010, 10:53 PM

I'm excited to report that I "pulled the trigger" on my first keris purchase. This is from Artzi and will be shipping out tomorrow. I have been seeking an old keris with well carved fullers, but until now have not found one that I could afford. I hope some of the knowledgeable members here can tell me something about what I have purchased.

Rick · 3rd February 2010, 11:07 PM

I had been discussing this keris with David; congratulations on your purchase!

Your hilt is Jogjakarta in style .
The scabbard is Madurese .
I can't guess the origin of the blade ...

Lombok ??

Altogether a nice combination .

A. G. Maisey · 4th February 2010, 01:11 AM

Not a bad keris. Not bad at all.

Based upon what I can see in the pics, and accepting that this opinion could change if it were in my hand, I would give this blade stylistically as Mataram Sultan Agung, but that is not to say it necessarily is M'ram SA. To get a good fix you need it in the hand.

Wrongko is as Rick said:- Madura.

Hilt must be changed, and the mendak is only so-so, but as a first keris, its a nice choice.

EDIT
Since writing the above, it has been pointed out to me that my comments on classification of this blade could easily confuse somebody who is not particularly familiar with stylistic variation, and after thinking about what I have written, I am inclined to agree.
The sweep of the gonjo, the square outline of the blumbangan, the kruwingan, the pronounced and lengthy ada-ada, and the length from the tip to the first wave behind the tip are all in the style of a Mataram Sultan Agung blade, as it would appear prior to erosion, however, the material is not possible to judge and the ron dha is not within the parameters of a Mataram SA ron dha.
I hope these further remarks make clear my meaning.

JeffS · 4th February 2010, 05:57 AM

Thank you for your comments.

Quote:

Hilt must be changed

What style hilt would you recommend?

A. G. Maisey · 4th February 2010, 06:53 AM

I think I'd like to see a donoriko on it --- that's the well known Madura "flower" hilt.

The important thing is that whatever Madura style hilt you put on it, it should be in proportion. There is quite a bit of variation in size with Madura hilts, and if one that is too big, or too small, is fitted, it just will not look real good. The fact that the wrongko is a ladrangan can make this matter of proportion a bit difficult to satisfy.

BluErf · 4th February 2010, 03:53 PM

Congratulations on your first keris!

When I saw the keris on the website, I went "wow" too.

It's a nice one.

3rd February 2010, 10:53 PM	#1
JeffS Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 345	First Keris - Comments Please! I'm excited to report that I "pulled the trigger" on my first keris purchase. This is from Artzi and will be shipping out tomorrow. I have been seeking an old keris with well carved fullers, but until now have not found one that I could afford. I hope some of the knowledgeable members here can tell me something about what I have purchased.

4th February 2010, 01:11 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Not a bad keris. Not bad at all. Based upon what I can see in the pics, and accepting that this opinion could change if it were in my hand, I would give this blade stylistically as Mataram Sultan Agung, but that is not to say it necessarily is M'ram SA. To get a good fix you need it in the hand. Wrongko is as Rick said:- Madura. Hilt must be changed, and the mendak is only so-so, but as a first keris, its a nice choice. EDIT Since writing the above, it has been pointed out to me that my comments on classification of this blade could easily confuse somebody who is not particularly familiar with stylistic variation, and after thinking about what I have written, I am inclined to agree. The sweep of the gonjo, the square outline of the blumbangan, the kruwingan, the pronounced and lengthy ada-ada, and the length from the tip to the first wave behind the tip are all in the style of a Mataram Sultan Agung blade, as it would appear prior to erosion, however, the material is not possible to judge and the ron dha is not within the parameters of a Mataram SA ron dha. I hope these further remarks make clear my meaning. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 4th February 2010 at 06:47 AM.

3rd February 2010, 11:07 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	I had been discussing this keris with David; congratulations on your purchase! Your hilt is Jogjakarta in style . The scabbard is Madurese . I can't guess the origin of the blade ... Lombok ?? Altogether a nice combination .

4th February 2010, 06:53 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	I think I'd like to see a donoriko on it --- that's the well known Madura "flower" hilt. The important thing is that whatever Madura style hilt you put on it, it should be in proportion. There is quite a bit of variation in size with Madura hilts, and if one that is too big, or too small, is fitted, it just will not look real good. The fact that the wrongko is a ladrangan can make this matter of proportion a bit difficult to satisfy.

4th February 2010, 03:53 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Congratulations on your first keris! When I saw the keris on the website, I went "wow" too. It's a nice one.