Mark On 1902 Afghan Sabre Quillon

Rick · 15th June 2006, 10:07 PM

Here are two shots of yet another mark found on this sabre .
This one has what appears to be a sun in the top left corner .

Linky to the sword : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=Mazar+Sharif

Any ideas ?
Ariel ?
Another Mazar I Sharif stamp ?

ariel · 15th June 2006, 10:10 PM

I may be imagining things, but perhaps, just perhaps, one can see 2 minarets.
If so, Mazar-i-Sharif.

S.Al-Anizi · 15th June 2006, 10:15 PM

I believe that this is a Mazar-Sharif mark. Ive got one on my 1890 afghan saber, etched on the blade.

spiral · 15th June 2006, 11:53 PM

Nice blade Rick,

I like this armourys work, perhaps a bit of diversification is called for amongst my collection!

Spiral

Rick · 16th June 2006, 12:13 AM

Thanks Ariel and Saqr !

Spiral , you should hear how this blade rings when tapped with a hard object .
I believe this armoury was well known for its quality steel .
Possibly Ariel can comment on this .

spiral · 16th June 2006, 12:18 AM

Great stuff! There kukri rings like a bell as well!

Spiral

S.Al-Anizi · 16th June 2006, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Thanks Ariel and Saqr !

Spiral , you should hear how this blade rings when tapped with a hard object .
I believe this armoury was well known for its quality steel .
Possibly Ariel can comment on this .

Actually Rick, in the case of my saber, no ringing at all! When I tap it slightly on the wall, I hear no sound at all, almost like a plastic toy sword

Guess my piece has a very low quality blade. Unlike all my other swords, whom ring like bells.

Rick · 16th June 2006, 01:48 AM

Hi Saqr , could you post a picture or two of your sabre ?
Is it the same style as my example ?

S.Al-Anizi · 16th June 2006, 12:58 PM

Here are three:

This is more of a euro styled saber.

Rick · 16th June 2006, 02:17 PM

Very nice !
Another style of sword to add to this armory's inventory .
Very handsome etchings ; can you read any of them ?

spiral · 16th June 2006, 02:35 PM

Excelent stuff ! this is fascinating!

Spiral

S.Al-Anizi · 16th June 2006, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Very nice !
Another style of sword to add to this armory's inventory .
Very handsome etchings ; can you read any of them ?

Yah sure, I can read a date of 1308 on the ricasso, and the word "Al-Mutawakkil Ala Allah, Muhammad Tahir Shah" on the blade.

Rick · 16th June 2006, 04:26 PM

See any connections on this page of Afghan history ?
http://4dw.net/royalark/Afghanistan/barak15.htm

This is fun stuff Spiral !

ariel · 16th June 2006, 11:52 PM

Here are 2 of my Afghani/Uzbeki shashkas.
The smaller one has a uniform high-pitched glassy ring, not very impressive. But the large one... It sounds like a Russian church during Easter! Loud, resonant, gorgeous sound!
The small one has 3 bronze plugs: 2 at ricasso and one at the end of the fuller. Timurid influence? The large one is covered with etched inscriptions, but nothing like those abominable (sorry!) Qajar Revival swords or ceremonial kaskaras: thick, heavy, solid, battle-ready.
Both have Mazar-i-Sharif markings. Their clarity is very good and one can learn to recognize them at first glance.

S.Al-Anizi · 17th June 2006, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

battle-ready.

Thats not a good sign

15th June 2006, 10:07 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Mark On 1902 Afghan Sabre Quillon Here are two shots of yet another mark found on this sabre . This one has what appears to be a sun in the top left corner . Linky to the sword : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=Mazar+Sharif Any ideas ? Ariel ? Another Mazar I Sharif stamp ? Attached Images

16th June 2006, 04:26 PM	#13
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Hmmm See any connections on this page of Afghan history ? http://4dw.net/royalark/Afghanistan/barak15.htm This is fun stuff Spiral !

16th June 2006, 11:52 PM	#14
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Here are 2 of my Afghani/Uzbeki shashkas. The smaller one has a uniform high-pitched glassy ring, not very impressive. But the large one... It sounds like a Russian church during Easter! Loud, resonant, gorgeous sound! The small one has 3 bronze plugs: 2 at ricasso and one at the end of the fuller. Timurid influence? The large one is covered with etched inscriptions, but nothing like those abominable (sorry!) Qajar Revival swords or ceremonial kaskaras: thick, heavy, solid, battle-ready. Both have Mazar-i-Sharif markings. Their clarity is very good and one can learn to recognize them at first glance. Attached Images

15th June 2006, 10:10 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I may be imagining things, but perhaps, just perhaps, one can see 2 minarets. If so, Mazar-i-Sharif.

15th June 2006, 10:15 PM	#3
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	I believe that this is a Mazar-Sharif mark. Ive got one on my 1890 afghan saber, etched on the blade.

15th June 2006, 11:53 PM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Nice blade Rick, I like this armourys work, perhaps a bit of diversification is called for amongst my collection! Spiral

16th June 2006, 12:13 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Thanks Ariel and Saqr ! Spiral , you should hear how this blade rings when tapped with a hard object . I believe this armoury was well known for its quality steel . Possibly Ariel can comment on this .

16th June 2006, 12:18 AM	#6
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Great stuff! There kukri rings like a bell as well! Spiral

16th June 2006, 01:48 AM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Hi Saqr , could you post a picture or two of your sabre ? Is it the same style as my example ?

16th June 2006, 12:58 PM	#9
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	Here are three: This is more of a euro styled saber.

16th June 2006, 02:17 PM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Very nice ! Another style of sword to add to this armory's inventory . Very handsome etchings ; can you read any of them ?

16th June 2006, 02:35 PM	#11
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Excelent stuff ! this is fascinating! Spiral