13th October 2010, 03:30 PM | #1 |
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ID help needed on Sumatra sword
I recently got this small sword (blade is 40cm).
It originates from a weapons collection (both European and Ethnographic) that was collected before 1940. I was able to acquire some items. This short sword I cannot identify positively. My guess is Sumatra - possibly a Batak Andar Andar with a variation hilt - sukul jering. The handle is horn. Who knows more - all input welcome! Regards, Erik |
13th October 2010, 07:40 PM | #2 | |
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Hello Erik,
A really intriguing sword! Quote:
I believe this originates from some Sumatran Muslim group, probably East coast rather than Aceh. The blade has keris-like base features like the pedang type 3 example shown in AvZ and the hilt also seems to be kinda intermediate between a pedang hilt and a hulu iku mie. The laminated blade seems substantial and genuine - would love to see it etched! Regards, Kai |
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13th October 2010, 11:44 PM | #3 | |
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My guess would be a Kalasan. |
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17th October 2010, 11:21 PM | #4 |
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For comparison:
http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1991 I have some training with this item and my teacher did learn it in Sumatra. Ours also has the backcut tip/spine and there are movements that capitalize on this design aspect. |
18th October 2010, 08:13 AM | #5 | |
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Kalasan?
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I have a few karo kalasans in my collection. In my opinion this blade is quite different. It does not have the S shape of the blade. It does have more a blade similair to that of the andar andar. Slightly broader at the point and double edged. It does not have the typical characteristics of a Batak blade near the handle though - instead it has a keris like feature that is also sometimes seen on pedangs from Sumatra. Regards, Erik |
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18th October 2010, 10:37 PM | #6 | |
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Thanks for the insight Erik. |
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