Dagger from Philippines OR MEDITERRANEAN Dagger?

carlos · 26th February 2014, 11:07 PM

This is my last adquisition and the reason I didn,t bid in the matulis of our friend Thepepperskull.
The piece is a dagger that to me isa dagger from Philippines, the seller descript ítem like mediterranean spanish dagger.
Description from the seller

You are viewing a gorgeous dagger that is 13” (33cm) long without the scabbard. The dagger has a finely forged 9” blade with engraving at its base. Both the knife and the scabbard are finely decorated with ornate metalwork. The handle is crafted of horn and has a decorative metal pommel. This wonderful, high quality dagger is in excellent condition

Any information is wellcome.
Thanks in advance
carlos

carlos · 26th February 2014, 11:09 PM

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Cthulhu · 26th February 2014, 11:37 PM

It's a lovely knife, and nice pictures, too.

An image search on Albacete dagger brings up some similar Spanish knives, but of course there was plenty of Spanish influence in the Philippines. What features of it make you place it there rather than Spain?

carlos · 27th February 2014, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

It's a lovely knife, and nice pictures, too.

An image search on Albacete dagger brings up some similar Spanish knives, but of course there was plenty of Spanish influence in the Philippines. What features of it make you place it there rather than Spain?

I have seen anothers daggers from officials of the Philippine army and katipunan similars to this piece, and the markd in the blade too is similar to others daggers.
best regards

carlos

ThePepperSkull · 28th February 2014, 01:59 AM

Maybe the more experienced Collectors can chime in here, but Horn and silver is a common motif for Luzon-region philippine daggers. Also, the hilt seems less bulbous than most Alcabete I've seen (admittedly, google is my only experience, hahaha) and more in style with a lot of Spanish-colonial influenced Philipine daggers.

What DOES look different to me from most Luzon pieces is the sheath. Most Luzon pieces are leather instead of hardwood. An exception to this is southern Luzon. For example, the Minasbad, a blade native to the Bicol area, traditionally has a wooden sheath.

Maybe this dagger is Bicolano in origin?

26th February 2014, 11:07 PM	#1
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 738	Dagger from Philippines OR MEDITERRANEAN Dagger? This is my last adquisition and the reason I didn,t bid in the matulis of our friend Thepepperskull. The piece is a dagger that to me isa dagger from Philippines, the seller descript ítem like mediterranean spanish dagger. Description from the seller You are viewing a gorgeous dagger that is 13” (33cm) long without the scabbard. The dagger has a finely forged 9” blade with engraving at its base. Both the knife and the scabbard are finely decorated with ornate metalwork. The handle is crafted of horn and has a decorative metal pommel. This wonderful, high quality dagger is in excellent condition Any information is wellcome. Thanks in advance carlos Attached Images

26th February 2014, 11:09 PM	#2
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 738	And a few more... Attached Images

26th February 2014, 11:37 PM	#3
Cthulhu Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Central Valley, California Posts: 46	It's a lovely knife, and nice pictures, too. An image search on Albacete dagger brings up some similar Spanish knives, but of course there was plenty of Spanish influence in the Philippines. What features of it make you place it there rather than Spain?

28th February 2014, 01:59 AM	#5
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Maybe the more experienced Collectors can chime in here, but Horn and silver is a common motif for Luzon-region philippine daggers. Also, the hilt seems less bulbous than most Alcabete I've seen (admittedly, google is my only experience, hahaha) and more in style with a lot of Spanish-colonial influenced Philipine daggers. What DOES look different to me from most Luzon pieces is the sheath. Most Luzon pieces are leather instead of hardwood. An exception to this is southern Luzon. For example, the Minasbad, a blade native to the Bicol area, traditionally has a wooden sheath. Maybe this dagger is Bicolano in origin?