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Old 14th September 2012, 06:57 PM   #1
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Default Badek / badik dagger for ID / Horn hilt

Hello forumites.

Can someone help me with indentifying the origin of this badek knife ?

I would also like to know what style ferrule it once had.

Best regards,
Willem
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Old 14th September 2012, 08:29 PM   #2
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Hello forumites.

Can someone help me with indentifying the origin of this badek knife ?

I would also like to know what style ferrule it once had.

Best regards,
Willem
The hilt looks like Banjarese hilts ( south Borneo ) maybe an exported piece from Sumatra. I would give the thing a brass ferrule.

Arjan
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Old 14th September 2012, 10:09 PM   #3
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Hi Willem,

this badik you have is from the hilt style very similar to the one I have, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13472
My one have a silver ferrule.

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Old 16th September 2012, 11:14 AM   #4
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this badik you have is from the hilt style very similar to the one I have, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13472
My one have a silver ferrule.
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Hello Detlef,

The general shap is similar, but the elaborate carvings an decorations on your example make me think more of Sumatra.

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Old 16th September 2012, 11:17 AM   #5
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The hilt looks like Banjarese hilts ( south Borneo ) maybe an exported piece from Sumatra. I would give the thing a brass ferrule.

Arjan
Hello Arjan,
Banjarmasin was also my feeling with this hilt.
I checked the RMV collection, but could not find anything similar. (yet)

Maybe other forumites have similar examples ?

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Old 22nd September 2012, 02:10 PM   #6
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Over 200 views and still no-one who has anything similar in his collection.

Pfew, lucky me, I bought a really rare piece this time
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Old 22nd September 2012, 02:51 PM   #7
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I have something....... sort of similar........
See here:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...549#post145549

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Old 22nd September 2012, 11:44 PM   #8
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Interesting page
http://haloindo.com/indo-investment/...-of-badik.html
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Old 23rd September 2012, 01:19 AM   #9
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Indeed !
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Old 30th September 2012, 05:36 AM   #10
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Over 200 views and still no-one who has anything similar in his collection.

Pfew, lucky me, I bought a really rare piece this time
Rare perhaps, but not unique...

Interesting theory that these could be Banjar...plausible at any rate. I figured Bugis of some description but god knows from where. Got mine quite a long time back on Ebay from a European source. Probably the usual tourist bring-back story so the provenance is totally irretrevable.

BTW, the hilt collar and buntut on mine are buffalo horn if you're considering restoring yours.

33.5cm OAL, 21.5cm blade.
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Rare perhaps, but not unique...

Interesting theory that these could be Banjar...plausible at any rate. I figured Bugis of some description but god knows from where. Got mine quite a long time back on Ebay from a European source. Probably the usual tourist bring-back story so the provenance is totally irretrevable.

BTW, the hilt collar and buntut on mine are buffalo horn if you're considering restoring yours.

33.5cm OAL, 21.5cm blade.
Thank you for posting this rare dagger Nice example with the horn details.
I will first try to restore it with metal, but horn will be the next possibility.

Best regards,
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Old 17th October 2012, 12:46 AM   #12
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Well, here it is with a brass ferrule.
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Old 17th October 2012, 01:06 AM   #13
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Perfect done!
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Old 17th October 2012, 01:26 AM   #14
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Very well done Willem, a beautiful restoration.

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Old 17th October 2012, 02:48 AM   #15
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Nicely done man!
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Old 19th October 2012, 02:35 AM   #16
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Can you do mine too?

Kidding...
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Old 19th October 2012, 09:35 PM   #17
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Can you do mine too?

Kidding...


The Buffalo horn band looks fine on your example.
I like to restore things whenever they are missing, but I prefer when pieces are complete and preferrably original.

I am not unsatisfied with the result on this badek either, but I could improve the quality of my pictures.
Artificial light is really not my thing. daylight gives so much better pictures.

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Old 29th October 2012, 01:25 AM   #18
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I took some daylight pictures to do the handle and the blade more justice
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Old 30th January 2020, 08:37 AM   #19
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Hello forumites.

Can someone help me with indentifying the origin of this badek knife ?

I would also like to know what style ferrule it once had.

Best regards,
Willem
This ini badek from bugis, kabupaten sidenreng rappang, the name of handle is "Kulu-kulu Sidenreng"
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