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This is slightly off topic but it is related to the Kris so here it goes...
Here is a picture of an indonesian prince. The period is probably around 1900. He is wearing a kris in a european style sabre holder. The kris seems Maduran to me but it is hard to tell. It is a nice kris picture to share and I hope to get some more info too.... Regards, Erik |
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Hi Erik,
did you post this on dekris too? I think that some members will know this too. The more you ask the more you will know! |
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I don't think this is off topic, because the picture you posted is about the way to wear keris too. There are at least 4 to 5 ways to wear keris. And this is one of them, we in Jawa call this way as "anganggar" (wear keris as an 'anggar', or as a 'sabre' like you said...). The way soldiers or commander of soldiers used to wear their kerises in war time... Who is he? I am sure, this is a very popular personality, and Indonesian painter -- once wellknown also in the Netherlands and also Germany in the end of 1800s. His name is RADEN SALEH SYARIF BUSTAMAN... You may read his biography in this site http://www.bkpm.org/princeradensaleh.htm for instance... Regards, GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 2nd February 2009 at 01:12 AM. Reason: Wrong year |
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Great info Ganja, thanks so much!
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What a fascinating man, thanks for the link Ganjawulung
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Many thanks Ganjawulung.
Very different from what I thought and very interesting to read about this man! Regards, Erik |
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Amazing story ! Thanks Ganjawalung.
Erik, where is your picture from ? |
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Hi, it is from my private collection or didn't you mean that?
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Yes. And these are more paintings by Raden Saleh from European collections -- I think they are all in the Netherlands, Germany or France...
http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/aria_...e=&context_id= http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raden_Saleh http://www.arcadja.com/auctions/it/s...artista/62264/ GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 3rd February 2009 at 08:48 AM. |
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Raden Saleh, the father of modern Indonesian painting. His home in Cikini, Jakarta, is now the TIM art centre.
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What I was wondering is : Is it part of a book, or just a loose page of a book ? Best regards, Willem |
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Hi Willem,
It is neither it is an original photo, as I mentioned form my photo collection. The format is the so called CDV (Carte de Visite). At the bottom you can see the name of the photographer in The Hague. I have a small collection of these kind of photo's mainly of officers with the Dutch Military Order of William which is a military historic interest of mine (www.mwo.6x.to). This prince had a double interest to me, the combination of interesting orders (not the aforementioned MWO) and the keris! Judging from what I have seen on the websites this is a picture not published before. Regards, Erik Quote:
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Thanks Erik,
What kind of orders is he wearing ? can you tell by this picture ? And the helmet reminds me a bit of old KNIL helments. Where variations of the KNIL helmets also used ? Best regards, Willem |
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Hullo everybody,
I just had a thought! ![]() Hope this helps someone who is interested in chasing it up. Best, |
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