strange polerarm

corrado26 · 22nd November 2022, 05:39 PM

A friend of mine owns a polearm, what I think is of French origin, eventually of the times of Charles IX. (1560-1574). Perhaps I am wrong so I hope that the French users here are able to help.

corrado26 · 24th November 2022, 10:32 AM

no opinion at all?

fernando · 24th November 2022, 11:48 AM

Nice oiece,Udo. It would be interesting to know whether this polearm has a type name or is an atypical (exclusive)version.

corrado26 · 24th November 2022, 02:51 PM

I think I found it - intensive search helps really:
Officers Partisan, Savoy-France, 1638-1648, Madame Reale Christina and monogram of Carlo Emanuele III. king of Sardinia. (see Heribert Seitz, Blankwaffen II, Braunschweig 1968). Seitz called this a "Glefe"

kronckew · 24th November 2022, 04:58 PM

good find!

M ELEY · 24th November 2022, 09:21 PM

A truly amazing artifact! I've heard the tasseled collar was to keep moisture away from where the head fit into the shaft? And also for ceremonial purposes-

kronckew · 25th November 2022, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M ELEY

A truly amazing artifact! I've heard the tasseled collar was to keep moisture away from where the head fit into the shaft? And also for ceremonial purposes-

... and also to keep 'moisture' (ie. blood) from running down the shaft and making the wielder's hands slippery. It'll run down the hanging tassles & fall off instead.

BUCC_Guy · 27th November 2022, 04:39 PM

I recently saw a similar example at a traveling display from the Museo Stibbert in Florence, Italy. They gave it a specific name I had not heard of before, which I cannot remember, thus eliminating the utility of this post.

I remember it because I personally would have just called it a partisan, but I noted they called it something else.

I dug through my photos and researched a bit, but cannot find the reference I’m looking for.

At the very least, however, I can assure you it is not a one-off or unique design. While it may not be the most popular or widespread polearm, this form existed in at least France and Italy.

22nd November 2022, 05:39 PM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,207	strange polerarm A friend of mine owns a polearm, what I think is of French origin, eventually of the times of Charles IX. (1560-1574). Perhaps I am wrong so I hope that the French users here are able to help. Attached Images

24th November 2022, 02:51 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,207	I think I found it - intensive search helps really: Officers Partisan, Savoy-France, 1638-1648, Madame Reale Christina and monogram of Carlo Emanuele III. king of Sardinia. (see Heribert Seitz, Blankwaffen II, Braunschweig 1968). Seitz called this a "Glefe" Attached Images

24th November 2022, 10:32 AM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,207	no opinion at all?

24th November 2022, 11:48 AM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Nice oiece,Udo. It would be interesting to know whether this polearm has a type name or is an atypical (exclusive)version.

24th November 2022, 04:58 PM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	good find!

24th November 2022, 09:21 PM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,101	A truly amazing artifact! I've heard the tasseled collar was to keep moisture away from where the head fit into the shaft? And also for ceremonial purposes-

27th November 2022, 04:39 PM	#8
BUCC_Guy Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 52	I recently saw a similar example at a traveling display from the Museo Stibbert in Florence, Italy. They gave it a specific name I had not heard of before, which I cannot remember, thus eliminating the utility of this post. I remember it because I personally would have just called it a partisan, but I noted they called it something else. I dug through my photos and researched a bit, but cannot find the reference I’m looking for. At the very least, however, I can assure you it is not a one-off or unique design. While it may not be the most popular or widespread polearm, this form existed in at least France and Italy.