hello gentlemen, I want to show you a keris which I think he comes from Sumatra

semar · 12th January 2015, 10:59 AM

what i know about this keris

this keris have 7 loeks
the pamor is beras wutha
the dapur wil be bungkum
handel is hoorn but new like the selut to
the back site have a restoration that is the reason that the sheath dark varnished
so any extra info wil be welkom

regards semar

David · 13th January 2015, 12:06 AM

Hi Semar. It's hard for me to tell where this is from, though other might have a better idea. The blade does not look particularly Sumatran to me, though perhaps from an area up along the Straits of Malacca. But i am only guessing here. The hilt, as you point out, is new, but it seems a mix of styles a bit, something new that doesn't fully follow any traditional form.

Gustav · 13th January 2015, 12:22 AM

I must say, also the blade looks recent to me. Too many Pamor layers (for this type of blade), which are too thin. Absolutely no erosion between Wilah and Gonjo. The whole shape of Gonjo, especially at Buntut, and Jenggot look like they have been cut mehanically.

David · 13th January 2015, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gustav

I must say, also the blade looks recent to me. Too many Pamor layers (for this type of blade), which are too thin. Absolutely no erosion between Wilah and Gonjo. The whole shape of Gonjo, especially at Buntut, and Jenggot look like they have been cut mehanically.

I tend to agree Gustav. I am always a bit reticent to make these judgements based on photos alone, especially with blades that seem to be washed to the point of looking old, but you may be correct here. There is a certain color in the iron that also leads me to believe this blade is contemporary, but colors in photos can easily be a bit off due to light color temperature.

A. G. Maisey · 13th January 2015, 03:32 AM

The blade does not look like any current production of which I am aware.

The wrongko appears to have some age, but seems to have been refinished.

I cannot comment on the hilt.

I do not know where a combination of this type may originate.

semar · 13th January 2015, 07:24 AM

I bought this keris 18 years ago at a flea market for 35 gulden
and yes the wrongko is refineshed
two months ago,i let clean this keris again here in djogya so its normaal that you not see any erosion

regards semar

Gustav · 13th January 2015, 10:29 AM

Semar,

by erosion I don't mean active rust.

Regards,
Gustav

12th January 2015, 10:59 AM	#1
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	hello gentlemen, I want to show you a keris which I think he comes from Sumatra what i know about this keris this keris have 7 loeks the pamor is beras wutha the dapur wil be bungkum handel is hoorn but new like the selut to the back site have a restoration that is the reason that the sheath dark varnished so any extra info wil be welkom regards semar Attached Images

13th January 2015, 12:06 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Hi Semar. It's hard for me to tell where this is from, though other might have a better idea. The blade does not look particularly Sumatran to me, though perhaps from an area up along the Straits of Malacca. But i am only guessing here. The hilt, as you point out, is new, but it seems a mix of styles a bit, something new that doesn't fully follow any traditional form.

13th January 2015, 12:22 AM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	I must say, also the blade looks recent to me. Too many Pamor layers (for this type of blade), which are too thin. Absolutely no erosion between Wilah and Gonjo. The whole shape of Gonjo, especially at Buntut, and Jenggot look like they have been cut mehanically.

13th January 2015, 03:32 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	The blade does not look like any current production of which I am aware. The wrongko appears to have some age, but seems to have been refinished. I cannot comment on the hilt. I do not know where a combination of this type may originate.

13th January 2015, 07:24 AM	#6
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	I bought this keris 18 years ago at a flea market for 35 gulden and yes the wrongko is refineshed two months ago,i let clean this keris again here in djogya so its normaal that you not see any erosion regards semar

13th January 2015, 10:29 AM	#7
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Semar, by erosion I don't mean active rust. Regards, Gustav