Weapons of Nubian Palace Guard

KraVseR · 20th April 2013, 12:22 PM

Hello! We know about Nubian Palace Guard only from drawings by Ludwig Deutsch. In his works we can see ethnographic weapons. Please, help me identify they. And, maybe, someone know the history/organisation of this guard?

Battara · 20th April 2013, 04:39 PM

What great paintings and examples of Ottoman wear in belts and weaponry, although the shield and helmet looks Persian Qajar period.

When were these done?

CharlesS · 20th April 2013, 05:43 PM

Deutsch's "Palace Guard" works are fun, fanciful, and highly exotic, which is exactly what he was going for. That said, these belts loaded with weapons of every type is almost certainly impractical embellishment as he was known to include the use of armor and weapons from his own travels and collection in his paintings. That helps explain the wide variety of origins of the pieces.

This was not an uncommon habit of several of the "orientalists" artists of the 19th and early 20th century.

Just imagine trying to move about with all that strapped to you!

There is a good variety of books available on the great "Orientalists" of the era and their works. My personal favorite is Jean Leon Gerome.

KraVseR · 20th April 2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

When were these done?

This is 1890-1900 years.

estcrh · 21st April 2013, 01:27 PM

Those images may not be all that far from reality.

estcrh · 22nd April 2013, 03:23 AM

Talk about an over abundance of weapons!!

A painting of a native soldier from north-western India, possibly a Sikh, carrying 3 firearms, an axe, sword, possibly 2 daggers and a shield.

KraVseR · 22nd April 2013, 08:11 PM

Thank you. As I understand it, their arms were like the Mameluke. Sword is definitely Yatagan. But what about the history / organization of these guards?

20th April 2013, 12:22 PM	#1
KraVseR Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ukraine Posts: 128	Weapons of Nubian Palace Guard Hello! We know about Nubian Palace Guard only from drawings by Ludwig Deutsch. In his works we can see ethnographic weapons. Please, help me identify they. And, maybe, someone know the history/organisation of this guard? Attached Images

21st April 2013, 01:27 PM	#5
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,497	Those images may not be all that far from reality. Attached Images

22nd April 2013, 03:23 AM	#6
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,497	Talk about an over abundance of weapons!! A painting of a native soldier from north-western India, possibly a Sikh, carrying 3 firearms, an axe, sword, possibly 2 daggers and a shield. Attached Images

20th April 2013, 04:39 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	What great paintings and examples of Ottoman wear in belts and weaponry, although the shield and helmet looks Persian Qajar period. When were these done?

20th April 2013, 05:43 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Deutsch's "Palace Guard" works are fun, fanciful, and highly exotic, which is exactly what he was going for. That said, these belts loaded with weapons of every type is almost certainly impractical embellishment as he was known to include the use of armor and weapons from his own travels and collection in his paintings. That helps explain the wide variety of origins of the pieces. This was not an uncommon habit of several of the "orientalists" artists of the 19th and early 20th century. Just imagine trying to move about with all that strapped to you! There is a good variety of books available on the great "Orientalists" of the era and their works. My personal favorite is Jean Leon Gerome.

22nd April 2013, 08:11 PM	#7
KraVseR Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ukraine Posts: 128	Thank you. As I understand it, their arms were like the Mameluke. Sword is definitely Yatagan. But what about the history / organization of these guards?