6th March 2012, 07:16 AM | #1 |
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Chieftain keris
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I would like to share with you my last catch ! Looks like a " chieftain keris " . The patina is fantastic and all parts seems to be original . Probably sumatran but the wilah is a bit confusing for me ! Any comments are more than welcome . Henri |
6th March 2012, 12:37 PM | #2 |
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Nice catch. A beautiful keris indeed but I don't think its a chieftain. Looks more like a "keris selit" or small keris for customary use.
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6th March 2012, 03:33 PM | #3 |
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I beautiful keris. This thread might be helpful.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hieftain+keris |
7th March 2012, 12:22 AM | #4 |
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Thank you Jentayu and David .
Anyway ! No worries if we can t refer to " Chieftain keris " . Still a nice piece for me . Question is this keris Bugis , Southern Sumatran or more Malay ? From where I got this one I can be 90% sure all parts are original but sheath is more Bugis influence and blade for me more Sumatran . Thank you for your comments guys Henri |
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9th March 2012, 08:51 AM | #6 |
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Sajen , the blade is exactly 260 mm and overall 345 mm
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9th March 2012, 12:48 PM | #7 |
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Thank you Henri, by this size it is possible that Jentayu is correct.
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10th March 2012, 09:41 AM | #8 |
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Beautiful keris
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11th March 2012, 06:27 AM | #9 |
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Thank you Marco .
So I will file this one as Keris selit / Malaysian origin . |
12th March 2012, 10:49 AM | #10 |
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Blade Material
I'm interested in the blade material. I've seen it in a lot of Bugis pieces as the iron has a rather silvery colour rather than the greyish tinge or approaching black hue found on other blades manufactured elsewhere in the region.
Is this the result of the blade not being acid stained, or due to some high nickel content in the base material perhaps? Can someone enlighten me |
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This blade was just scrubbed for removing the rust and would look completely different after warangan, see examples of Bugis blades before and after treatment. Regards |
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13th March 2012, 04:44 AM | #12 |
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Bonjour Jean ( eh oui ! un peu francais moi ausi ! )
Did you mean this blade is made of alloy nickel iron and iron and could show a pamor after waranga treatment ? I haven t tried waranga thinking the peninsular origin of this blade didn t allow this kind of alloy . This one for me doesn t look like a bugis . Henri |
13th March 2012, 09:15 AM | #13 |
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Yes, it is a pamor blade. A lot of collectors don't like to etch (warangan) Bugis and Malay blades.
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I also fully agree with David.
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All right . Will etch and post some photos soon .
Thank you all for your inputs . I am still a bit confused for the origin : Bugis or Keris selit peninsular but I will do some homework to get a reply . Henri |
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