Malaysian kris (or keris)?

[Dave1104]

I picked this up on one of my trips to Malaysia. Please help in identifying it?

Thanks,
Dave

[Henk]

Awsome piece. I would say keris panjang or execution keris from Sumatra. The ukiran is typical for a sumatra keris panjang. But i'm not quite sure about the keris itself. My first thought was a tombak, but could also be a keris cundrik. That's my first opinion. Lets wait what other members will say.

[Sajen]

Agree with Henk, look like a panjang or bahari blade with missing gonjo. From which material is the handle and the cross piece of the sheath? Interesting piece.

Regards,

Detlef

[Dave1104]

I'm not sure of the handle material. How do I find out, short of sending it to an expert?
Dave

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Dave1104

I'm not sure of the handle material. How do I find out, short of sending it to an expert?
Dave

Try to post some close ups, maybe someone can see it by the pictures.

[khalifah muda]

Originally Posted by Dave1104

I picked this up on one of my trips to Malaysia. Please help in identifying it?

Thanks,
Dave

Nice sturdy blade. Unfortunately, the ganja is missing.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Agree with Henk, look like a panjang or bahari blade with missing gonjo.

Regards,

Detlef

Yeah, missing ganja, too bad! The shape of the sampir looks odd, it may be a dua hari bulan style but cut longways on the top side for matching with the blade without ganja?
Regards

[khalifah muda]

Originally Posted by Jean

Yeah, missing ganja, too bad! The shape of the sampir looks odd, it may be a dua hari bulan style but cut longways on the top side for matching with the blade without ganja?
Regards

Probably a refine piece - zoom in the part opposite the gandik.

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by Dave1104

I'm not sure of the handle material. How do I find out, short of sending it to an expert?
Dave

Heat up a needle and stick it somewhere in the hilt in a place where it will not show. Maybe the hole where the peksi fits.

If it is some kind of horn or stag you will get a destinct smell of burned hair.

Further I also see a blade that has been reshaped and is missing the ganja. Fitted with a new scabbard with an undefined wrangka shape.
The hilt is classic in shape but of low quality.

I think that there is not much to discuss on this piece.

[Henk]

Ukiran, wrangka and the tip of the scabbard are horn.

[Dave1104]

Sorry gentlemen. I greatly appreciate your comments and advice. I will try to respond to this in a few days. I have some travel for the next few days.

Dave

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Henk

Ukiran, wrangka and the tip of the scabbard are horn.

Hello Henk,

which sort of horn you have in mind? Strange colour IMHO.

Regards,

Detlef

[Henk]

Sorry Detlef for the delay.

It is bufallo horn. Not a strange color. I've seen many variations on color. I visisted once a very famous collector here in Holland. He told me that the color of horn has many variations. Every variation has its value. The most expensive colors are green and the most cheapest and common brown and black.
This collector showed me a keris with a dresss of expensive green horn. It looked like jade. That was an awsome keris.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Henk

Sorry Detlef for the delay.

It is bufallo horn. Not a strange color. I've seen many variations on color. I visisted once a very famous collector here in Holland. He told me that the color of horn has many variations. Every variation has its value. The most expensive colors are green and the most cheapest and common brown and black.
This collector showed me a keris with a dresss of expensive green horn. It looked like jade. That was an awsome keris.

Hello Henk,

no problem. Have seen black, brown, green and "white" buffalo horn but can't remember to to have seen it with this specked colour.

Regards,

Detlef