Go on... show us your Barung!!!

Spunjer · 21st January 2012, 07:49 PM

i thought Andy Stevens thread regarding choora was most excellent, so i decided to create this one, in honor of the Barung. it would be fun to see the different barungs from everyone's collection. as we know, the variance between barungs are subtle, compared to the kris, but each one is individually unique and an art to its own. so here's a few from last year's family picture. the gasahs were added as props...
A) warrior's barung, with an unusual, fully intact carabao's horn ferrule
B) shandigan blade, with bold pile lamination pattern
C) from the Sama people, with a zulfikar engraved close to the handle
D) my first junggayan pommeled barung
E) kamagong with ivory inlays datu barung
F) big, chunky ivory hilted with gold ferrule barung
G) most excellent carved junggayan hilt with naga inlays on the blade
H) a junggayan handle barung, very chunky in design with shorter than usual ferrule compensated with a longer than average blade
I) chased ferruled barung with double edged blade
J) my very first barung, just an every day variation
K) an older piece, with a chopmark stamp on the blade
L) a real thick shandigan blade, with an unusual handle design

A.alnakkas · 21st January 2012, 08:16 PM

Wow very beautiful mate! Too bad I have non to share :-)

Battara · 21st January 2012, 10:19 PM

Ah what the heck! I don't have as many but I have 3:

top: fossil mastodon pommel and silver sleeve

middle: ivory pommel with silver sleeve and swassa ferrule

bottom: wood with ivory inlay pommel, silver braided and chased, brass sleeve

Stan S. · 22nd January 2012, 12:06 AM

Wow! Just wow!

paolo · 22nd January 2012, 11:53 AM

I have only two. The first is Sulu, the second one was brought at the battle of Bud Dajo.
Paolo

ariel · 22nd January 2012, 02:28 PM

I always thought that handles with the carved box-like "beak" of the kakatua pommel appeared in the 1930s. At least, that's what I read here from the Moro gurus. If so, the inscription dated 1907 might be a little suspect. Am I totally wrong?

Spunjer · 22nd January 2012, 03:02 PM

jose, always loved your ivory pieces! rare indeed, that fossilized handle you have! when i grow up, i'd love to own one like that!!!
@paolo two excellent pieces you have! the silver covered handle is incredible!
@ariel, regarding the appendage: that's what cato proposed, among other things, but more and more, there are plenty that have the same appendages with strong provenance dating back at the turn of the century.
added couple pictures. the barung below was brought back around 1900-1901 by Webb Hayes (the tip broke off, but you could still see it). on the second pic, please note the two gentlemen at the back, second and third from the right (or is it left, lol). second seated from the left is Datu Unga, Tausug warrior extraordinaire. hard to see, but i can assure you his barung has the same appendage. picure was taken early 1900's.
what concerns me more about paolo's other barung is the date given. 1st battle of Bud Dajo was March 5-8, 1906, while the second one was in 1911. on the first battle, i could see someone getting confused with the days, but how can anyone forget the year?

VVV · 22nd January 2012, 03:04 PM

Here are my favorites.

Michael

Spunjer · 22nd January 2012, 03:30 PM

Yowza! on the first one, have you ever thought about re-seating the blade? love the simple, yet elegant lines on that bottom piece! i've never seen that big, chunky ivory handled one! thanks for sharing

Sajen · 22nd January 2012, 03:47 PM

Hello,

by all this beautiful examples I am almost a little bit shamed to show my two simple barung. The smaller one with not original sheat (is it matching?). Both are Samal in my humble opinion.

Regards,

Detlef

David · 22nd January 2012, 05:46 PM

OK, you guys are all giving me Barung envy. It's the one type of blade that i truly want, but have yet to find the right example for me. Some real unusual examples here. Just beautiful....

Spunjer · 22nd January 2012, 05:58 PM

sajen, nothing wrong with your examples! thanks for posting them. i wish everyone would post their barungs, even the WW2 ones, not just the blingy ones!!!

Sajen · 22nd January 2012, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

sajen, nothing wrong with your examples! thanks for posting them. i wish everyone would post their barungs, even the WW2 ones, not just the blingy ones!!!

Thank you for your kind words!

Do you think that the sheath is matching with the barung from style?

Regards,

Detlef

Rick · 22nd January 2012, 06:52 PM

Nt ....

Spunjer · 23rd January 2012, 01:41 AM

i can't tell you either way, sajen... if you refer back to the picture of the datus above, you will notice that the one standing on the far left appears to have a similar type handle like the one that you have. he's most likely Tausug..
rick, the smaller one: is it the one with with buckshots (or something like that) stuffed in the ferrule??? thanks for posting..

KuKulzA28 · 23rd January 2012, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

sajen, nothing wrong with your examples! thanks for posting them. i wish everyone would post their barungs, even the WW2 ones, not just the blingy ones!!!

even none blingy ones welcome eh? Well, here goes.

migueldiaz · 23rd January 2012, 02:33 AM

here's most of my barungs in my humble collection ...

kino · 23rd January 2012, 02:55 AM

An excellent gathering guys. Love those silver hilted examples.
Here are some of mine.

Nathaniel · 23rd January 2012, 04:13 AM

Fantastic Post, Beautiful blades!

Royston · 23rd January 2012, 09:29 AM

Three simple ones. Old photos, they are much cleaner now.

Roy

Loedjoe · 23rd January 2012, 02:11 PM

Here are a few more. (Sajen - 'simple' barung are just as beautiful)

Sajen · 23rd January 2012, 03:59 PM

OMG, so beautiful examples, thank you all for sharing. Loedjoe thank you for your kind words!

Here pictures from the lamination of my bigger barong.

Spunjer · 24th January 2012, 01:32 AM

wow, excellent barungs! loedjoe, welcome to the forum, and thanks for posting your pieces. you should post more often

sajen, that's one heck of a lamination you got!!!

please keep it coming, guys!!!

Ferguson · 25th January 2012, 01:08 AM

I only have one nice one.
Steve

Spunjer · 26th January 2012, 12:37 AM

thanks, ferguson! that's a beautiful junggayan. my question is: does the peg on the repaired part goes all the way? first time i've seen it repaired like that...

Ferguson · 26th January 2012, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

thanks, ferguson! that's a beautiful junggayan. my question is: does the peg on the repaired part goes all the way? first time i've seen it repaired like that...

No, I think it just repairs a bad spot in the wood. Not sure how deep it is.
Thanks,
Steve

trenchwarfare · 27th January 2012, 02:58 AM

Awesome blades guys. Does this one count?

Only "Barung", I have. Could have been done by a native, or GI. Or could've been done by a Japanese. They were on some of the islands for so long, some of them, "Went native".

Rick · 27th January 2012, 03:15 AM

Nice temper line .

ThePepperSkull · 27th January 2012, 04:24 AM

Very nice, trenchwarfare! I love cross-cultural pieces. They're always very inventive.

Maurice · 27th January 2012, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

thanks, ferguson! that's a beautiful junggayan. my question is: does the peg on the repaired part goes all the way? first time i've seen it repaired like that...

Ron, for years ago I had a pira with a similar peg like ferguson's barungpommel.
That peg went all the way.

Maurice

21st January 2012, 07:49 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Go on... show us your Barung!!! i thought Andy Stevens thread regarding choora was most excellent, so i decided to create this one, in honor of the Barung. it would be fun to see the different barungs from everyone's collection. as we know, the variance between barungs are subtle, compared to the kris, but each one is individually unique and an art to its own. so here's a few from last year's family picture. the gasahs were added as props... A) warrior's barung, with an unusual, fully intact carabao's horn ferrule B) shandigan blade, with bold pile lamination pattern C) from the Sama people, with a zulfikar engraved close to the handle D) my first junggayan pommeled barung E) kamagong with ivory inlays datu barung F) big, chunky ivory hilted with gold ferrule barung G) most excellent carved junggayan hilt with naga inlays on the blade H) a junggayan handle barung, very chunky in design with shorter than usual ferrule compensated with a longer than average blade I) chased ferruled barung with double edged blade J) my very first barung, just an every day variation K) an older piece, with a chopmark stamp on the blade L) a real thick shandigan blade, with an unusual handle design Attached Images

21st January 2012, 10:19 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Ah what the heck! I don't have as many but I have 3: top: fossil mastodon pommel and silver sleeve middle: ivory pommel with silver sleeve and swassa ferrule bottom: wood with ivory inlay pommel, silver braided and chased, brass sleeve Attached Images

22nd January 2012, 11:53 AM	#5
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	I have only two. The first is Sulu, the second one was brought at the battle of Bud Dajo. Paolo Attached Images

22nd January 2012, 03:02 PM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	jose, always loved your ivory pieces! rare indeed, that fossilized handle you have! when i grow up, i'd love to own one like that!!! @paolo two excellent pieces you have! the silver covered handle is incredible! @ariel, regarding the appendage: that's what cato proposed, among other things, but more and more, there are plenty that have the same appendages with strong provenance dating back at the turn of the century. added couple pictures. the barung below was brought back around 1900-1901 by Webb Hayes (the tip broke off, but you could still see it). on the second pic, please note the two gentlemen at the back, second and third from the right (or is it left, lol). second seated from the left is Datu Unga, Tausug warrior extraordinaire. hard to see, but i can assure you his barung has the same appendage. picure was taken early 1900's. what concerns me more about paolo's other barung is the date given. 1st battle of Bud Dajo was March 5-8, 1906, while the second one was in 1911. on the first battle, i could see someone getting confused with the days, but how can anyone forget the year? Attached Images Last edited by Spunjer; 22nd January 2012 at 03:19 PM.

22nd January 2012, 03:04 PM	#8
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Here are my favorites. Michael Attached Images

21st January 2012, 08:16 PM	#2
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Wow very beautiful mate! Too bad I have non to share :-)

22nd January 2012, 12:06 AM	#4
Stan S. Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY USA Posts: 227	Wow! Just wow!

22nd January 2012, 02:28 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I always thought that handles with the carved box-like "beak" of the kakatua pommel appeared in the 1930s. At least, that's what I read here from the Moro gurus. If so, the inscription dated 1907 might be a little suspect. Am I totally wrong?

22nd January 2012, 03:30 PM	#9
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Yowza! on the first one, have you ever thought about re-seating the blade? love the simple, yet elegant lines on that bottom piece! i've never seen that big, chunky ivory handled one! thanks for sharing

22nd January 2012, 03:47 PM	#10
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,766	Hello, by all this beautiful examples I am almost a little bit shamed to show my two simple barung. The smaller one with not original sheat (is it matching?). Both are Samal in my humble opinion. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

22nd January 2012, 05:46 PM	#11
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,119	OK, you guys are all giving me Barung envy. It's the one type of blade that i truly want, but have yet to find the right example for me. Some real unusual examples here. Just beautiful....

22nd January 2012, 05:58 PM	#12
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	sajen, nothing wrong with your examples! thanks for posting them. i wish everyone would post their barungs, even the WW2 ones, not just the blingy ones!!!

22nd January 2012, 06:52 PM	#14
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Nt .... Attached Images

23rd January 2012, 01:41 AM	#15
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	i can't tell you either way, sajen... if you refer back to the picture of the datus above, you will notice that the one standing on the far left appears to have a similar type handle like the one that you have. he's most likely Tausug.. rick, the smaller one: is it the one with with buckshots (or something like that) stuffed in the ferrule??? thanks for posting..

23rd January 2012, 02:33 AM	#17
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	here's most of my barungs in my humble collection ... Attached Images

23rd January 2012, 02:55 AM	#18
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	An excellent gathering guys. Love those silver hilted examples. Here are some of mine. Attached Images

23rd January 2012, 04:13 AM	#19
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Fantastic Post, Beautiful blades!

23rd January 2012, 09:29 AM	#20
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	Three simple ones. Old photos, they are much cleaner now. Roy Attached Images

23rd January 2012, 02:11 PM	#21
Loedjoe Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oxford (UK) Posts: 96	Here are a few more. (Sajen - 'simple' barung are just as beautiful) Attached Images

23rd January 2012, 03:59 PM	#22
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,766	OMG, so beautiful examples, thank you all for sharing. Loedjoe thank you for your kind words! Here pictures from the lamination of my bigger barong. Attached Images

24th January 2012, 01:32 AM	#23
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	wow, excellent barungs! loedjoe, welcome to the forum, and thanks for posting your pieces. you should post more often sajen, that's one heck of a lamination you got!!! please keep it coming, guys!!!

25th January 2012, 01:08 AM	#24
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	I only have one nice one. Steve Attached Images

26th January 2012, 12:37 AM	#25
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	thanks, ferguson! that's a beautiful junggayan. my question is: does the peg on the repaired part goes all the way? first time i've seen it repaired like that...

27th January 2012, 02:58 AM	#27
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Awesome blades guys. Does this one count? Only "Barung", I have. Could have been done by a native, or GI. Or could've been done by a Japanese. They were on some of the islands for so long, some of them, "Went native". Attached Images

27th January 2012, 03:15 AM	#28
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Nice temper line .

27th January 2012, 04:24 AM	#29
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Very nice, trenchwarfare! I love cross-cultural pieces. They're always very inventive.