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17th May 2018, 05:49 PM
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Dagger, Choora and axe
I couldnīt resist and I got this lot today....
I must say I bought it because of the dagger... Should really appreciate opinions about it.... Any opinions at all... Sorry for bad pictures.... I will take better pictures when better light... Thanks for looking.... Best, Stefan |
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17th May 2018, 06:11 PM
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Stefan:
Nice lot to pick up. The top one appears to be a Kurdish jambiya with a nice clean blade and typical raised central rib. The middle one is a choora/pesh kabz/karud (pick the name you prefer and see threads elsewhere on this forum). I think it is probably 19th C. The bottom one is an Ngombe ngulu sword once used to decapitate victims but later primarily a ceremonial instrument. Congratulations on a good haul. Ian |
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17th May 2018, 07:37 PM
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Thank you, Ian!
Maybe a silly question but is it possible to put a country on the dagger.... I mean Turkey, Iraq, Syria or Iran... Just curious and I want to learn.... I uploaded a picture of the sheath for the dagger.... So far I only have three daggers but hopefully there will be more. Again thanks, Ian. Also a big thank you to Sajen for being patient with me. 
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19th May 2018, 01:34 AM
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Hi Hombre,
Nice lot you have there. I like the Ngulu sword. Don't know much about them, but it looks great and authentic. I like the other group too. All typical and good pieces. As for the exact origin of the Kurdish dagger, it is hard to say. There are members of the forum who can tell you, but even in Artzi's site they are often sold as "Eastern Turkey of Northern Iraq". If I had to guess, I would say Northern Iraq, because of the sleek shape of the hilt and because Turkish scabbards often have a horn, ivory of wooden tip. How big is it? Standard size is 16-18 inch, but it looks much smaller than the upper one. |
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19th May 2018, 08:35 AM
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Hi
Very nice daggers! It's very difficult to say unless you have a specific blade or something on the hilt or the sheat... Kurdish... Of course the one in the middle is from lower Irak (Baghdad-Bassorah) so-called Marsh dagger... Kubur |
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19th May 2018, 10:02 AM
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A great many of the Kurdish jambiyah from Kurdistan* are wootz! look carefully, the grain structure may be noticeable without etching. Have a look thru the forum search on Kurdish and/or wootz...
*- The Kurdish inhabitants disagree with the current arbitrary borders set up mostly by the UK after ww2 which did not recognise ethnic reality & have resisted rule by these foreigners (Iran,Turkey,Iraq,Syria) ever since. |
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19th May 2018, 05:54 PM
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Thank you so very much for your information and nice words.
I really appreciate that. Motan, the lenght of the daggers: Top around 50 cm Middle around 40 cm Bottom around 38 cm Best, Stefan |
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31st May 2018, 09:01 PM
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