the bikaner armoury

dralin23 · 9th November 2015, 07:14 PM

hello,
some weeks ago i visited rajasthan. i would like see all these big castels, palaces and forts in these old country. my first stop was in bikaner and i went directly in the junagarh fort.... i would like see these famous indian armoury in the castel. in these moment i feel if i like a little child short before santa claus comming thrue the door....
it was an long planed journey and some time i thought that these dream never comes true....,
in the next days i will share some ot these many pictures from the bikaner, the jodhpur und udaipur museums here i the forum. in the jaipur armoury it was not allowed to used my camera, but the most weapons you see in the latest book from robert elgood.
now the firist rate from the display with old allsteel daggers from the bikaner amroury
all the best stefan

dralin23 · 9th November 2015, 07:19 PM

here are some more pictures. some shows the same dagger with different light....

dralin23 · 9th November 2015, 07:29 PM

some more photos...,
it was very intersting for me to see such good early arms very close befor me.
unfortunatly i could ntohing read about these arms in these armoury. for all visitors without knowledge is these museum only a big picturebook.
i was also very sadly to see that many old, rare, beautifull wepons was displayed in very very dirty diplays. i will show you these cases in one of the next threads. to see this is terrible for every true collector. i could crying!!
stefan

dralin23 · 9th November 2015, 07:43 PM

here are some pictures from very nice old swords in dirt displays.....it`s a shame!

Emanuel · 9th November 2015, 07:44 PM

Hello Stefan,

Thank you for the pictures and the close-ups! I had a great time in Bikaner a few years ago and was able to take some quick pictures. Mine were poorer quality I'm afraid: : A visit to Bikaner, Rajasthan.

Emanuel

dralin23 · 9th November 2015, 07:48 PM

here are some more pictures from these wonderfull old swords!!

dralin23 · 9th November 2015, 07:56 PM

here comes my absolutly favorite display in these museum..., my heart beat much faster by these view and my eyes was very very big in these moment

dralin23 · 9th November 2015, 07:58 PM

and some more phantastic swords!!

dralin23 · 9th November 2015, 08:04 PM

yes these fort is brethtaking! some time i can´t believe it that many years ago these "little" indian peoples could build such castels , could make such pieces of art...., i spend a lot of time i these fort, than i couldn´t go away....,i must see these arms again and again and agein.....

Tatyana Dianova · 10th November 2015, 08:16 AM

Really interesting daggers - thank you for sharing!

Tatyana Dianova · 10th November 2015, 08:18 AM

Great swords - thanks!

Roland_M · 10th November 2015, 10:28 AM

Hello,

Thank you very much for presenting these beauties.

I afraid the dirt is rust from the blades. How blind must one be, to ignore such a deterioration?

Roland

Pukka Bundook · 10th November 2015, 03:35 PM

Beautiful workmanship on some of these!
Thank you for the photos.
Many appear to have come from the South of India, do you not agree?

Jens Nordlunde · 10th November 2015, 05:58 PM

Yes the show of weapons is really fascinating - thanks for showing the pictures.

Richard, the interesting thing is - how many of the weapons came from Deccan?
It is known that they in the north, had great artists doing this kind of iron work, but it is also known that Anup Singh after the fall of Adoni send a lot of weapons to Bikaner. To this comes that he had, for years, campaigned in Deccan, so many of the weapons sent home could have come from other places than from Adoni.
We will need an expert on Deccani weapons to go to Bikaner, to have a look at the weapons to tell us what is what.

dralin23 · 11th November 2015, 08:44 PM

here are some views in the armoury

dralin23 · 11th November 2015, 08:47 PM

..wonderfull steelwork...

dralin23 · 11th November 2015, 08:56 PM

here are some pictures from the bikaner katars

estcrh · 11th November 2015, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dralin23

here are some pictures from the bikaner katars

Any chance of you posting a link to larger sized images? They really deserve to be viewed in full size.

Jens Nordlunde · 11th November 2015, 09:46 PM

Yes the steel work is fantastic, and we do know that at least some of the weapons come from Deccan or from south India - but does all of them come from there??
Someone once wrote, that they in the north, only started to use gold and silver for decoration rather late, as they had the steel work. Was it Goetz???

9th November 2015, 07:14 PM	#1
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	the bikaner armoury hello, some weeks ago i visited rajasthan. i would like see all these big castels, palaces and forts in these old country. my first stop was in bikaner and i went directly in the junagarh fort.... i would like see these famous indian armoury in the castel. in these moment i feel if i like a little child short before santa claus comming thrue the door.... it was an long planed journey and some time i thought that these dream never comes true...., in the next days i will share some ot these many pictures from the bikaner, the jodhpur und udaipur museums here i the forum. in the jaipur armoury it was not allowed to used my camera, but the most weapons you see in the latest book from robert elgood. now the firist rate from the display with old allsteel daggers from the bikaner amroury all the best stefan Attached Images

9th November 2015, 07:19 PM	#2
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	some more pictures here are some more pictures. some shows the same dagger with different light.... Attached Images

9th November 2015, 07:29 PM	#3
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	and now the last pictures from these display some more photos..., it was very intersting for me to see such good early arms very close befor me. unfortunatly i could ntohing read about these arms in these armoury. for all visitors without knowledge is these museum only a big picturebook. i was also very sadly to see that many old, rare, beautifull wepons was displayed in very very dirty diplays. i will show you these cases in one of the next threads. to see this is terrible for every true collector. i could crying!! stefan Attached Images

9th November 2015, 07:43 PM	#4
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	Bikaner Sword Bisplay here are some pictures from very nice old swords in dirt displays.....it`s a shame! Attached Images

9th November 2015, 07:48 PM	#6
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	some more pictures here are some more pictures from these wonderfull old swords!! Attached Images

9th November 2015, 07:44 PM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hello Stefan, Thank you for the pictures and the close-ups! I had a great time in Bikaner a few years ago and was able to take some quick pictures. Mine were poorer quality I'm afraid: : A visit to Bikaner, Rajasthan. Emanuel

9th November 2015, 07:56 PM	#7
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	my favorite display in bikaner!! here comes my absolutly favorite display in these museum..., my heart beat much faster by these view and my eyes was very very big in these moment Attached Images

9th November 2015, 07:58 PM	#8
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	more swords.... and some more phantastic swords!! Attached Images

9th November 2015, 08:04 PM	#9
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	hello emanuel yes these fort is brethtaking! some time i can´t believe it that many years ago these "little" indian peoples could build such castels , could make such pieces of art...., i spend a lot of time i these fort, than i couldn´t go away....,i must see these arms again and again and agein.....

10th November 2015, 08:16 AM	#10
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 701	Really interesting daggers - thank you for sharing!

10th November 2015, 08:18 AM	#11
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 701	Great swords - thanks!

10th November 2015, 10:28 AM	#12
Roland_M Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 525	Hello, Thank you very much for presenting these beauties. I afraid the dirt is rust from the blades. How blind must one be, to ignore such a deterioration? Roland

10th November 2015, 03:35 PM	#13
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Beautiful workmanship on some of these! Thank you for the photos. Many appear to have come from the South of India, do you not agree?

10th November 2015, 05:58 PM	#14
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Yes the show of weapons is really fascinating - thanks for showing the pictures. Richard, the interesting thing is - how many of the weapons came from Deccan? It is known that they in the north, had great artists doing this kind of iron work, but it is also known that Anup Singh after the fall of Adoni send a lot of weapons to Bikaner. To this comes that he had, for years, campaigned in Deccan, so many of the weapons sent home could have come from other places than from Adoni. We will need an expert on Deccani weapons to go to Bikaner, to have a look at the weapons to tell us what is what.

11th November 2015, 08:44 PM	#15
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	the armoury here are some views in the armoury Attached Images

11th November 2015, 08:47 PM	#16
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	some maces ..wonderfull steelwork... Attached Images

11th November 2015, 08:56 PM	#17
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	some katars from the bikaner armoury.... here are some pictures from the bikaner katars Attached Images

11th November 2015, 09:46 PM	#19
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Yes the steel work is fantastic, and we do know that at least some of the weapons come from Deccan or from south India - but does all of them come from there?? Someone once wrote, that they in the north, only started to use gold and silver for decoration rather late, as they had the steel work. Was it Goetz??? Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 11th November 2015 at 10:40 PM.