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Dear All,
Again, this was just an intermezzo. Just call it a weekender keris sight-seeing. Just want to share with you, pictures of what many of you call such hilts as -- raksasa hilts. Or, "buta bajang" hilts, whatever. Really I don't have the "pakem" book yet on such hilts. I would like to thank you too, if you wish to share too, your pictures on such hilts. I believe, there are still more such hilts all around here... GANJAWULUNG |
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Here are close ups on one of them...
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Some of them are not like "buta" or "raksasa", but like figures of Javanese wayang...
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Nice handles Pak G.
You're right, it is a pity we do not have any guide book relating to this form of hilt. I've posted some rough pics of a few of mine, but really, I don't know if they strictly fit the parameters or not --- but I'm certain that they fit the "whatever" classification. |
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Thanks a lot, Alan for sharing your fantastic "butas"... Is there any thing to tell on some of their 'gesture'. Any 'speculation' idea on the "mudra", the special gesture of their hands and fingers maybe?
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My favourite kind of keris hilt!
In the late Karsten Sejr-Jensenīs book and CD there is an analysis of the mudra signs etc. Here are some of mine. Michael |
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Sorry Pak Ganja, this is an area that I know virtually nothing about.
Supposedly many of these figures are found in the pralambapada mudra, but my knowledge is insufficient for me to confirm this, or to speculate upon the reason, if indeed they are. It has been suggested to me by a Chinese academic who teaches in this area of knowledge that perhaps these mudras are not so accurately portrayed and that to truly interpret them might be more than a little difficult. These hilts are probably very fertile ground for some serious research. |
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Nice hilts. I too don't know much about them, but having grown up around Hinduism (I'm Indian and Nepalese), I find Indonesian representations of figures from Hindu mythology fascinating. Just out of curiosity, does 'buta' mean ghost?
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Ma kasih ganja, in Hindi, "bhut" means ghost, which is why I was curious.
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Great thread, though i would like to point out that we had a very similar thread on these figurative hilts this past spring. It might not be a bad idea to merge the 2 threads just to have all this info in one place, but for now i will just provide a link.
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Yes my most favorite type as well.
The discussion last time (as mentioned by David) with good input from Alan was very interesting. Also the krisdisk mentioned by Michael and of course the text by Martin Kerner on this theme is quite interesting (for those that read german..) Erik |
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Good idea David.
I'd forgotten that we'd been down this road before, if I'd remembered I would not have started walking along it again. |
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And more poses of this old model...
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Really great examples Ganjawulung!
Thanks for sharing! I am always searching for these but really good ones are harder and harder to find...(at least here in Holland) Erik |
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These are my ones
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Some of my wooden handles I have shown in the other threat before.
Here three handles in ivory. Please apologize the bad quality of the photos, it have been a fast snapshot. sajen Last edited by Sajen; 8th July 2009 at 11:37 PM. |
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Yeah, soap and water sounds a bit drastic.
I use a tooth brush and baby oil to clean really dirty hilts, and really, any other sort of carvings too. The oil tends to soak into the gunk and soften it, and after you've revisited the carving a few times you'll normally have all the muck removed. |
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Dear Roy and Sajen,
Thanks for the sharing. And here are more on variations of the 'giant' creatures. A hilt of horn below. More looks like wayang figures... GANJAWULUNG |
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And this is probably the wayang hilt. Hopefully, to be older than Cirebon era. Or Pajajaran?
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Beautiful Wayang hilt, Sajen. I think it is the best I've seen until today...
These are more pictures on other variant of "Buta hilt"... GANJAWULUNG |
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Thank you very much! But which one you mean? I show two different hilts. By one the Garuda munkur is pirced and by the other one not. sajen |
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