Sindi Percussion Musket for comment

kahnjar1 · 21st October 2018, 04:24 AM

From the same auction as the Rasak/Kariophili comes this nice Sindi Musket in approx 14mm smoothbore. The brass work is beautifully decorated and there is a spring trap under the stock for holding spare caps/nipples.
Barrel length 46" (117cm).
Numbers MO 51 burnt into stock. Other than that there are no marks that I can see.
All comments welcome.
Stu

Philip · 21st October 2018, 08:10 AM

You grabbed a nice one. Complete, clean, en suite, and it doesn't look like it's been monkeyed with.

Kubur · 21st October 2018, 09:07 AM

Congratulations, it's a very nice and well preserved rifle

Just for info two guns from Sindh

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=jezail

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sindi

Kubur · 21st October 2018, 09:16 AM

I have question for Rick and others
Why the old guns (18th early 19th) have the trigger down the butt
and the more recent late 19th early 20th have the trigger at a "normal" location...
???????

rickystl · 21st October 2018, 07:24 PM

Hi Stu

WOW!! That's a nice one. I agree with Philip's conclusion. And this one has a tapered and flared round barrel versus the octagon I see more often. That cap/accessory trap door is really cool. Unless the lock needs a bit of cleaning, not much else to do with this one but diplay it. LOL Nice to find a piece like this that doesn't require anything. Note the sling swivals done in pairs. This seems to be a common build feature with Sindh guns.
Almost all the remaining specimens of these Sindh guns are either matchlock or percussion. Seems that the locals skipped the flintlock for the most part and just went from matchlock to percussion, much like the Japanese. Although the one Link above showing Bandook's wall gun has a British trade lock, and would brobably be considered rare as Sindh guns go.
Nice gun Stu. Well done my friend. Congratulations.

Kubar: The position of the trigger: On the percussion guns you see the trigger mounted in either the more common position, or further back as in your sample. But the matchlocks all seem to be mounted in the rear. My only guess is that the rear mounted trigger is just a carry over from the matchlock period. The owner simply prefering to keep this feature.

Rick

rickystl · 21st October 2018, 09:41 PM

By the way, the topic gun is a 14mm (.55) caliber smoothbore. You seldom see this with percussion Sindh long guns. They are usually rifled in smaller calibers. Which makes this one even more interesting.

Rick

fernando · 21st October 2018, 10:31 PM

A rather nice piece, Stu. Congrats

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21st October 2018, 04:24 AM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	Sindi Percussion Musket for comment From the same auction as the Rasak/Kariophili comes this nice Sindi Musket in approx 14mm smoothbore. The brass work is beautifully decorated and there is a spring trap under the stock for holding spare caps/nipples. Barrel length 46" (117cm). Numbers MO 51 burnt into stock. Other than that there are no marks that I can see. All comments welcome. Stu Attached Images

21st October 2018, 08:10 AM	#2
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	Lucky you! You grabbed a nice one. Complete, clean, en suite, and it doesn't look like it's been monkeyed with.

21st October 2018, 09:16 AM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I have question for Rick and others Why the old guns (18th early 19th) have the trigger down the butt and the more recent late 19th early 20th have the trigger at a "normal" location... ??????? Attached Images Last edited by Kubur; 21st October 2018 at 10:26 AM.

21st October 2018, 09:07 AM	#3
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Congratulations, it's a very nice and well preserved rifle Just for info two guns from Sindh http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=jezail http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sindi

21st October 2018, 07:24 PM	#5
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Hi Stu WOW!! That's a nice one. I agree with Philip's conclusion. And this one has a tapered and flared round barrel versus the octagon I see more often. That cap/accessory trap door is really cool. Unless the lock needs a bit of cleaning, not much else to do with this one but diplay it. LOL Nice to find a piece like this that doesn't require anything. Note the sling swivals done in pairs. This seems to be a common build feature with Sindh guns. Almost all the remaining specimens of these Sindh guns are either matchlock or percussion. Seems that the locals skipped the flintlock for the most part and just went from matchlock to percussion, much like the Japanese. Although the one Link above showing Bandook's wall gun has a British trade lock, and would brobably be considered rare as Sindh guns go. Nice gun Stu. Well done my friend. Congratulations. Kubar: The position of the trigger: On the percussion guns you see the trigger mounted in either the more common position, or further back as in your sample. But the matchlocks all seem to be mounted in the rear. My only guess is that the rear mounted trigger is just a carry over from the matchlock period. The owner simply prefering to keep this feature. Rick

21st October 2018, 09:41 PM	#6
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	By the way, the topic gun is a 14mm (.55) caliber smoothbore. You seldom see this with percussion Sindh long guns. They are usually rifled in smaller calibers. Which makes this one even more interesting. Rick

21st October 2018, 10:31 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	A rather nice piece, Stu. Congrats .