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I HAVE WHAT I THINK IS A OLDER FORM OF NAGA AX . THE BLADE IS 24.8 CM. X 12 CM AND THE TOTAL LEGNTH IS 50.2 CM. LONG TOTAL. WOOD HANDLE WITH SMOOTH WEAR AND HEAVY PATINA, FORGED IRON FERRULE AND BUTT STRAP. FROM A OLD DUTCH COLLECTION CIRCA 19TH CENTURY.
#1, #2. & #3. TWO PICTURES OF MY UNUSUAL AX. AND ONE PICTURE WITH MY OTHER NAGA AXES FOR COMPARISON. #4. OLD PICTURE OF NAGA WEAPONS WITH OLDER FORM OF AX SIMULAR BUT NOT THE SAME AS MY EXAMPLE. CIRC 1873. #5. ANOTHER OLD PICTURE OF NAGA WEAPONS EXAMPLES OF MANY FORMS #6. NAGA WARRIORS #7. KONYAK, NAGA #8. NAGAS CIRCA 1930 #9.NAGAS #10. NAGA DAO WITH UNUSUAL SCABBARD #11. VARIOUS NAGA WEAPONS #12. NAGA WARRIOR, OLD PICTURE ALL OPINIONS AND INFORMATION WELCOME. ![]() Last edited by VANDOO; 5th February 2015 at 05:51 PM. |
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Hi VANDOO, seems like only you and me...
Nice interesting piece, not sure if it is in fact Naga, the profile of the handle is different. Maybe Assam or elsewhere in South East Asia. If from an old Dutch collection, perhaps Indonesia somewhere. Hopefully, someone will know ![]() |
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I haven't said anything, cuz I don't have a clue. I like it. Somehow feels Cambodian to me.
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I could be wrong (I often am) but to me it looks more like one of the elaborate throwing knives/axes from Africa.........
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THANKS! FOR THE REPLIES ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING JUST LIKE IT IN ANY OF THE PLACES MENTIONED. (BUT THEN I HAVE NOT SEEN EVERYTHING YET
![]() THE ONLY THING I AM SURE OF IS ITS OLDER THAN THE OTHER NAGA AXES I HAVE. MY KNOWLEGE OF ALL THINGS NAGA IS LIMITED AND THERE DOES SEEM TO BE QUITE A VARIETY OF WEAPONS SAID TO HAVE BEEN USED BY THE VARIOUS NAGA TRIBES IN SEVERAL AREAS. THE BLADE AND THE ABSENCE OF HAIR AND THE IRON FERRULES ON THE HANDLE DOES SET IT APART FROM TODAYS EXAMPLES. IF IT IS NAGA IT IS AN ATYPICAL FORM OR SOMETHING MODIFIED BY AN INDIVIDUAL. I TOO AM REMINDED OF AFRICAN THROWING KNIVES BUT THE BALANCE IS ALL WRONG ON THIS ITEM. MOST AFRICAN THROWING KNIVES I HAVE SEEN ARE ALL IRON WITH A FIBER OR CLOTH WRAPPED GRIP. I WILL USE THIS POST TO PUT ALL THE PICTURES OF NAGA ITEMS I HAVE FOR A REFERENCE WHICH CAN HOPEFULLY BE ADDED TO IN FUTURE. |
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NAGA PICTURES
#1. UNUSUAL FORM, KABUI DAO, SAID TO BE FOR DANCE. #2. PLATE FROM A OLD BOOK, VARIOUS NAGA WEAPONS #3. MISHMI NAGAS, ASSAM 1922 #4. NAGAS 1870 TO 1880 #5. NAGA SKULL RACK, SORRY FOR THE PICTURE QUALITY. ![]() #6.NAGA AX , DAO #7. NAGA AX DAO, 30 INCHES LONG #8. NAGA AX, DAO, 28 IN. LONG, CIRCA. 1900 #9. TWO NAGA AXES, WITH SCABBARDS AND BELTS #10. DISPLAY WITH NAGA SHIELD AND SEVERAL NAGA AX, DAO #11. OLD BOOK PLATE NAGA WITH FANCY HEADRESS WITH BUFFALOW HORNS AND HORNBILL SKULLS. #12. NAGA CROSSBOW AND A RAT TRAP. VERY POOR PICTURE BUT SHOWS THE UNUSUAL FORM. ![]() |
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MORE PICTURES
#1. IDENTIFIED AS NORTH KACHIN DAOS, MADE OF STEEL, WOOD, WITH BRASS AND SILVER FITTINGS. #2. NAGA DAO WITH BRASS BLADE, 18.5 INCHES LONG WITH SCABBARD. #3. NAGA DAO ,CLOSEUP DETAIL OF HAIR INSERTS #4. PICTURE OF THE DAO WITH HAIR INSERTS #5. NAGA DAO WITH BRASS FERRULE, AND SCABBARD #6. BRASS FERRULE , NAGA DAO #7. BRASS FERRULE , DIFFERENT DESIGN, NAGA DAO #8. NAGA DAO, BONE POMMEL DESIGN #9. NAGA DAOS FROM ARUNACHAL PRADESH #10. NAGA DAO, IVORY POMMEL DESIGN #11. NAGA DAO WITH IVORY POMMEL, AND BRASS AND SILVER #12. NAGA HAT WITH HORNS Last edited by VANDOO; 5th February 2015 at 05:25 PM. |
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EXCELLENT thread and a long overdue look at these fascinating weapons.
I have often wondered about Naga styles of blades. Are there certain styles that tend to indicate the age or era they are from, or are the styles unique to certain tribes? GREAT job Vandoo! |
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UNFORTUNATELY I DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEGE OR REFRENCES TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. I MAY EVEN BE CLASSIFING SOME TRIBES AS NAGA THAT ARE NOT
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#1. NAGA DAO, WITH SCABBARD, DETAIL OF BLADE TIP
#2. CEREMONIAL DAO, MILEMNOK, ANG TRIBE #3. NAGA, KHASI HILLS, ASSAM BURMA, 50 INCHES LONG #4. NORTH INDIA, NAKLANG DAO, KHASHI HILLS ,ASSAM 19 CENTURY #5. & #6. GARO DAO, ALL STEEL NAGA SWORD, ASSAM, BURMA #7. PRESENTATION NAGA DAO #8. & #9. NAGA SPEARS #10 UNUSUAL NAGA DAO/AX WITH TWO BLADES #11. & #12. MY FAVORITE NAGA HAT, ITS MINE ![]() Last edited by VANDOO; 6th February 2015 at 12:14 AM. |
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#1. & #2. ASSAM NAGA DAO CIRCA. 1800 33INCHES LONG, SILVER
#3.,#4., #5., #6., #7, #8.& #9. ASSAM , NORTH EAST INDIA, SEE RAWSON FIG. 46, KUKI DAO, A UNUSUAL FORM OF NAGA KNIFE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ON FORUM #10. SAID TO BE A NAGA SWORD FROM FLORES BURMA #11. NAGA SKULL RACK #12. NAGA , ANGAMI TRIBE Last edited by VANDOO; 6th February 2015 at 12:16 AM. |
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#1. KACHIN DAO
#2. KACHIN DAO, WITH SCABBARD AND LARGE RODENT JAW TAILSMAN #3. KACHIN DAO WITH LEOPARD JAW TAILSMAN #4. NAGA HATS WITH BEAR FUR #5. NAGA DAO AX #6. NAGA DAO WITH SCABBERD AND BELT WITH COWRIE SHELLS #7. & #8. NAGA DAO WITH BONE BELT #9. NAGA DAO, 61 CM. LONG #10. NAGA DAO, 64.3 CM. LONG #11. NAGA DAO, 70.5 CM. LONG #12. DETAIL OF SHELL DECORATION ON NAGA DAO BELT |
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THE LAST ONES FOR NOW.
#1. OLD HIDE SHIELD, I REFRAINED FROM SAYING NAGA HIDE ![]() #2. NAGA SKULL HOUSE #3. NAGALAND TRIBAL HOUSE INDIA #4. NAGA WITH LEOPARD OR TIGER CLAW CHIN STRAP FOR HIS HAT #5. NAGALAND #6. NAGA SENTRYS BRIGHT EYED AND BUSHY TAILED. ![]() THERE IS A BOOK BY RAWSON THAT HAS A DRAWING OF SEVERAL TYPES OF NAGA DAOS BUT I CAN NOT GET IT TO POST PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH THE BOOK CAN ADD IT. Last edited by VANDOO; 6th February 2015 at 12:19 AM. |
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Absolutely beautiful Naga Items Vandoo! What about this one? No one who has commented on this thread, has commented on my thread on this sword. Being from the same general region, I thought there would me more feedback? In my research, there are photos of only two examples. Mine, and one other. Not trying to hijack this thread. Just looking for answers.
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THIS IS A GOOD ADDITION TO THE POST AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WITH BETTER REFRENCES OR KNOWLEGE MAY COME TO THE RESCUE.
![]() THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT TRIBES, CUSTOMS, LANGUAGES AND VARIATIONS OF WEAPONS IN THE REGION. IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A ITEM THAT FALLS OUTSIDE OF THE NORMS WHICH ARE PICTURED IN THE FEW REFRENCE BOOKS. YOUR SWORD LOOKS A LOT LIKE A BLADE WITH A SHORT TANG SO IT MAY HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT LESS STURDY HANDLE AT SOME TIME. THE GRIP NOW ON THE BLADE WILL BE MORE STURDY BUT MAY BE A MAKSHIFT TEMPORARY REPAIR MADE SO THE SWORD COULD STILL BE USED. OR IT COULD BE A TRUE FORM OF SWORD IN SOME REGION OR TRIBE. ![]() Last edited by VANDOO; 6th February 2015 at 12:39 AM. |
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What you see on the pommel, is just an add-on. The hilt is two-handed. 29" blade, with an overall length of 38 1/2"
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Vandoo,
Is the hilt round or oval in cross section? Apart from the " Dha-like" examples all the other Nagas I have seen are not round. It is a bit of a puzzle and I have not seen one the same, although, as you say it is very similar to some in the photos. Regards Roy |
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THE FERRULE AND THE IRON STRAP AROUND THE BUTT OF THE HANDLE ARE FORGED BUT ROUND. THE WOOD SHAFT IS SOMEWHAT IRREGULAR BUT BASICALLY ROUND. IT IS TAPERED DOWN SMALL AT THE BUTT AND THE GRIP IS CLOSER TO THE HEAD WHERE THE GRIP AND BALANCE IS RIGHT, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR FIGHTING UP CLOSE BUT DOSEN'T ADD MUCH TO YOUR REACH. IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A TREE BRANCH WAS USED AND ROUGHED OUT TAPERED AND SMOOTHED LEAVING IT CLOSE TO ITS NATURAL SHAPE NOT TURNED BY MACHINE. THE BLADE IS SHARP ON THE INSIDE CURVE AND AROUND THE ROUNDED AX BLADE AT THE SIDE.
THE BLADE IS 1/2 INCH THICK AT THE FORTE AND TAPERS DOWN TO 1/16 INCH AT THE SPINE TIP. IT IS MADE FROM ONE PIECE OF STEEL AND I SEE NO TRACES OF ANY FORGED WELDS. THERE IS AN X ROUGHLY CUT ON THE SPINE COMING DOWN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BLADE AND AN INDENTATION THAT MAY BE A VERY CRUDE MAKERS MARK ON ONE SIDE TO THE BLADES MIDDLE. HERE ARE TWO POOR PICTURES ONE SHOWING THE FERRULES AND GRIP AND ONE THE SPINE OF THE BLADE. Last edited by VANDOO; 6th February 2015 at 11:11 PM. |
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Looks like a Mak blade, hammer welded to another style axe?
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OLD FORUM POSTS LINKS THAT TIE IN TO NAGA.
http://http://www.vikingsword.com/vb...highlight=KUKI THERE ARE 3 OLD POSTS WITH INFO ON THE BRASS HANDLED KNIFE BUT I CAN'T GET THE LINKS TO TRANSFER TO THIS POST. A SEARCH OF KUKI WILL BRING THEM ALL UP Last edited by VANDOO; 7th February 2015 at 05:10 AM. |
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Great thread! This will be a good resource.
I am interested in the Naga and other tribes of Assam and nearby regions. Here are some notes i've picked up during my studies. This information comes from a variety of sources, not all of which can I remember. The website forensicfashion.com has notes regarding a number of ethnographic peoples of possible interest to this group. Here are the notes:
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I also recommend perusing the book, "The Sema Nagas" by Hutton, J.H (1921) available for download in a variety of formats at https://archive.org/details/semanagas00hutthttps://archive.org/details/semanagas00hutt
( See https://archive.org/search.php?query...n+people%29%22 for several other Naga related resources ) Here is a quote from the book (p.20) that compares the different types of daos used by the various Naga tribes (emphasis and formatting is mine). It may be useful for identifying some of the weapons in the pictures shown elsewhere in this thread: "The Sema dao, like the Chekrama and Kezami dao, has a longish handle and is carried slung in a wooden carrier on the right buttock or at the small of the back, with the edge inwards. It is drawn with the right hand from the right side,not over the shoulder like a Chang dao.Attached is an illustration from the book with the following caption and information: "Sema and Other Naga Daos Used By Them" 1. Sema dao (Azhta) 2. Double-bladed Sema dao, Tangkhul type. 3. Konyak Blades. These two are not used by Semas as a rule. 4. Lhota type (akyekeh) 5. Chakrima Angami blade 6 and 7. Iron-handles dais (ailaghi), (1) Chang, (2) Tukhemmi or Kalyo-Kengyu. 8. Ao-Konyak blade Last edited by DaveA; 7th February 2015 at 07:13 AM. Reason: typo |
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This map is from "The Lhota Nagas", page 233. It is available for download at:
https://archive.org/details/cu31924024053534 Shown: Lhotas, Aos, Konyaks, Phoms, Changs, Sangtams, Yachungrr, Semas, Sangtams, Rengmas, Angamis, Naked Rengmas, Southern Sangtams, Tangkhuls |
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Top quality thread Guys! Interesting & educational! Thank you!
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Here are some of mine to add to the collection.
I have posted some of these before, but it is better to have them all in one place. The first and second to last are the metal shafted examples. Numbers 6 and 7 in Dave A's post. Regards Roy |
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I'm currently rereading James C Scott's The Art of Not Being Governed, which is a great history of "Upland Southeast Asia" and helps explain the origin of the great diversity of peoples in the area.
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A VERY NICE COLLECTION WITH SOME COOL ITEMS I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE. HERE ARE A FEW MORE PICTURES. #1., #9, 
 kachin dao, 88cm. LONG
#2. NAGA WEAPONS PLATE FROM RAWSON'S BOOK #3. REPLICA OF A NAGA HEADHUNTING TROPHY WITH A SPEAR POINT FINAL #4, #5, #6, & #8. NAGA DAO 78 CM. LONG, NOTE DESIGNS ON SCABBARD DETAIL. #7. NAGA DAO 81 CM. LONG FIRST HALF OF 20TH CENTURY Last edited by VANDOO; 6th March 2015 at 06:11 AM. |
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Blacklacrau,
From the attached illustration it appears that your weapon may be a dao originating with the Konyak Nagas. See my earlier post in this thread, #10 - Dave A. Last edited by DaveA; 6th March 2015 at 09:00 PM. Reason: remove duplicate information |
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