Opinion about this keris

scarroy · 15th March 2005, 02:13 PM

Somebody can give me some indications about this keris.
Thank's everybody.
Sidney.

Alam Shah · 15th March 2005, 04:20 PM

The sheath is the typical Javanese Wrangka Gayaman.
The hilt (ukiran) looks Sulawesi Bugis style.
The hilt cup looks like simplified brass Bugis cup. (Not original to the handle, though).
Correction: For keris blade...look at later posts...

Alam Shah · 15th March 2005, 04:28 PM

See this thread...for reference on Bugis style blades and sheaths.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=442

anak bongsu · 15th March 2005, 05:00 PM

hiya there...

wow nice kris you have there.. but.. hulu (handle) should be changed... but pleasa do keep that hulu since its of nice kemuning.... get a javanese one...

Im quite new in this pleasa do correct me if im wrong
blade javanese dapor tilam upih with pamor beras tumpah..

i guess...

buah cempedak luar pagar,
ambil galah tolong jolokkan,
saya anak baru belajar,
kalau salah tolong tunjukkan.

Henk · 15th March 2005, 06:03 PM

Hello Scarroy,

This is a javanese keris from Solo. Dapur is probably indeed Tilam Upih. Pamor I'm not sure about. As mentioned replace the ukiran and the mendak for a javanese one from solo. Take a look at ebay. At the moment some ukirans with mendak are offered there. Searchword is keris. And keep this bugis ukiran, maybe as a replacement one day or as a seperate collectors item.

empu kumis · 15th March 2005, 06:57 PM

Hello Henk,

i would like to know what makes this keris a keris from Solo for you

1. The handle
2. the sarung
3. the blade

or its a combination of what ?

Henk · 16th March 2005, 08:23 PM

Hello Empu Kumis,

The wrangka is in my opinion a typical example for Solo. The blade is typical javanese. A blade from Jogya is mostly smaller, more delicate. That's why I think in this case the blade is from Solo too. The ukiran is typical bugis. The mandak was probably a bugis one too, but i don't know what happened with it.

15th March 2005, 02:13 PM	#1
scarroy Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Paris Posts: 5	Opinion about this keris Somebody can give me some indications about this keris. Thank's everybody. Sidney. Attached Images

15th March 2005, 04:20 PM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	initial opinion... The sheath is the typical Javanese Wrangka Gayaman. The hilt (ukiran) looks Sulawesi Bugis style. The hilt cup looks like simplified brass Bugis cup. (Not original to the handle, though). Correction: For keris blade...look at later posts... Last edited by Alam Shah; 15th March 2005 at 11:23 PM. Reason: correction

15th March 2005, 04:28 PM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Bugis keris reference See this thread...for reference on Bugis style blades and sheaths. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=442

15th March 2005, 05:00 PM	#4
anak bongsu Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1	hiya there... wow nice kris you have there.. but.. hulu (handle) should be changed... but pleasa do keep that hulu since its of nice kemuning.... get a javanese one... Im quite new in this pleasa do correct me if im wrong blade javanese dapor tilam upih with pamor beras tumpah.. i guess... buah cempedak luar pagar, ambil galah tolong jolokkan, saya anak baru belajar, kalau salah tolong tunjukkan.

15th March 2005, 06:03 PM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Hello Scarroy, This is a javanese keris from Solo. Dapur is probably indeed Tilam Upih. Pamor I'm not sure about. As mentioned replace the ukiran and the mendak for a javanese one from solo. Take a look at ebay. At the moment some ukirans with mendak are offered there. Searchword is keris. And keep this bugis ukiran, maybe as a replacement one day or as a seperate collectors item.

15th March 2005, 06:57 PM	#6
empu kumis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 17	Hello Henk, i would like to know what makes this keris a keris from Solo for you 1. The handle 2. the sarung 3. the blade or its a combination of what ?

16th March 2005, 08:23 PM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Hello Empu Kumis, The wrangka is in my opinion a typical example for Solo. The blade is typical javanese. A blade from Jogya is mostly smaller, more delicate. That's why I think in this case the blade is from Solo too. The ukiran is typical bugis. The mandak was probably a bugis one too, but i don't know what happened with it.