Unmounted blade ID needed

Shakethetrees · 21st January 2016, 08:46 PM

This just turned up in a warehouse cleanup, along with three other similar examples.

I don't think it was ever mounted.

The surfaces show signs of hand finishing and file work.

Not being sure of the origin, I was wondering if these blades could have been made in Britain for export? There's a certain business-likequality and consistency I see in them that leads me to this.

Not marked.

Double edged with a spur to one edge.

Helleri · 21st January 2016, 11:54 PM

That thick of a tang, with no holes, threading or tapering, makes me wonder if it wasn't just meant to be wrapped/wound with something.

Shakethetrees · 22nd January 2016, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helleri

That thick of a tang, with no holes, threading or tapering, makes me wonder if it wasn't just meant to be wrapped/wound with something.

Since I believe it has never been mounted with any type of grip I think the tang was left as it is so that the end user could make it whatever they wish.

I could be wrong. The beefiness makes for a strong connection.

Battara · 23rd January 2016, 01:08 AM

Sort of looks Euro/American to me........

Tim Simmons · 6th February 2016, 06:10 PM

I wonder you might have quite a rare blade. In the Grassi museum Leipzig I came across this spear. Yes the blade is a little smaller and has some inlay decoration. However we know that weapon forms morph but tend to still show or hint at a cultural origin , I do not think that is an odd thing to suggest. Your blade like many blades with with appears unfinished hilts/handles so the blade can be easily transformed from one weapon to another, reach or close in. This spear from the Asian Arctic does many points of similarity in the origin of form. Yours is slightly fullerd but ethno weapons always have much variation. Worth thinking about. Like those Taiwanese blades. The pics will have to wait a bit I am not clever enough at the moment with this devise.

Tim Simmons · 9th February 2016, 06:00 PM

Right , back home. I am not saying this is IT but? Consider the similarities in style and form, especially at the forte which is an area that quite distinctive. How many blades from around the world we have found to be identified by this feature? a great many. Consider mounting this blade as in the pictures?

Shakethetrees · 9th February 2016, 11:53 PM

I haven't yet figured how (and if) I will mount it.

There were three or four more in the pile exactly the same form, but one or two were larger and also unmounted. I am attempting to get the others but have to play my line in the water a bit and not attempt to set the hook prematurely!

If I have any success I will post.

21st January 2016, 08:46 PM	#1
Shakethetrees Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 363	Unmounted blade ID needed This just turned up in a warehouse cleanup, along with three other similar examples. I don't think it was ever mounted. The surfaces show signs of hand finishing and file work. Not being sure of the origin, I was wondering if these blades could have been made in Britain for export? There's a certain business-likequality and consistency I see in them that leads me to this. Not marked. Double edged with a spur to one edge. Attached Images

9th February 2016, 06:00 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Right , back home. I am not saying this is IT but? Consider the similarities in style and form, especially at the forte which is an area that quite distinctive. How many blades from around the world we have found to be identified by this feature? a great many. Consider mounting this blade as in the pictures? Attached Images

21st January 2016, 11:54 PM	#2
Helleri Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Chino, CA. Posts: 219	That thick of a tang, with no holes, threading or tapering, makes me wonder if it wasn't just meant to be wrapped/wound with something.

23rd January 2016, 01:08 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Sort of looks Euro/American to me........

6th February 2016, 06:10 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	I wonder you might have quite a rare blade. In the Grassi museum Leipzig I came across this spear. Yes the blade is a little smaller and has some inlay decoration. However we know that weapon forms morph but tend to still show or hint at a cultural origin , I do not think that is an odd thing to suggest. Your blade like many blades with with appears unfinished hilts/handles so the blade can be easily transformed from one weapon to another, reach or close in. This spear from the Asian Arctic does many points of similarity in the origin of form. Yours is slightly fullerd but ethno weapons always have much variation. Worth thinking about. Like those Taiwanese blades. The pics will have to wait a bit I am not clever enough at the moment with this devise.

9th February 2016, 11:53 PM	#7
Shakethetrees Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 363	I haven't yet figured how (and if) I will mount it. There were three or four more in the pile exactly the same form, but one or two were larger and also unmounted. I am attempting to get the others but have to play my line in the water a bit and not attempt to set the hook prematurely! If I have any success I will post.