Keris blade for identification...discussion

Alam Shah · 28th March 2006, 03:23 AM

Hi all, the keris blade looks like a Patani Carita blade with an unusual sogokan
looking fullers. It has the sogokan depan only but can the other fuller attribute this to a Carita? Can anyone assist in identifying the blade type, dapur and any other details would be appreciated.

Keris Patani?

The profile of the base area...

A closer shot of the base area...

nechesh · 28th March 2006, 04:10 AM

Hi Shahrial. I thought that with the carita the fullers extended the length of the blade, though i must admit i know less about peninsula blades than i'd like. Nice keris though, i like it.

Is there any dress?

Alam Shah · 28th March 2006, 05:51 AM

David, the standard carita does extend to the end of the hilt, afaik.
I'm just suggesting, I'm not sure myself.

No dress for this one. It came with a balinese bebondolan hilt.
That's about it. I don't think it Balinese, though.

BluErf · 29th March 2006, 01:37 PM

This blade is probably Kelantanese, from the style of the greneng and the fullers, which are highly unusual.

Alam Shah · 20th May 2006, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluErf

This blade is probably Kelantanese, from the style of the greneng and the fullers, which are highly unusual.

After comparing with one of Dave's keris (from Rangsang Rias II 2006, Keris Competition Winner), it's more or less confirmed to be a Kelantanese keris. Thanks for the assistance.

Will post an update once the fitting had been completed.

Alam Shah · 15th September 2006, 01:35 PM

As promised, here are the pictures after the fittings made.
An old Malay keris in new fittings.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

or at

http://alamshah.fotopic.net/c1030591.html

Let me know your opinions.

Ian · 15th September 2006, 01:53 PM

This old thread is transferred to our new keris forum.

Ian.

BluErf · 16th September 2006, 01:52 AM

The sari bulan sheath is one of the most beautifully done example that I have seen. The way the daun-daun (the 2 tips of the sheath) curves out and then back in, before stretching out to form the caping (the point in the top-middle part of the sheath) can be described as almost 'sensuous'.

BluErf · 16th September 2006, 01:54 AM

And of course, the floral motif hilt, pendoko and blade are all first rate too!

Great great keris!

David · 16th September 2006, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluErf

The sari bulan sheath is one of the most beautifully done example that I have seen. The way the daun-daun (the 2 tips of the sheath) curves out and then back in, before stretching out to form the caping (the point in the top-middle part of the sheath) can be described as almost 'sensuous'.

Yeah...what he said...

I remember really liking this one when you first posted it Shahrial. I think you have truly done it justice. Nice job!

Alam Shah · 16th September 2006, 08:48 AM

Thank you both, Kai Wee and David.

Blu, you make the sheath sounds 'sexy'...

I like it very much too. The more I look at it, the more I like it.

But I stll don't know much about the blade... Perhaps in time, I would identify it accordingly.

BluErf · 17th September 2006, 05:50 AM

You mean you don't find it 'sexy' with all those killer curves?

Oh yes, you have a "makan mata" full keris now.

28th March 2006, 03:23 AM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Keris blade for identification...discussion Hi all, the keris blade looks like a Patani Carita blade with an unusual sogokan looking fullers. It has the sogokan depan only but can the other fuller attribute this to a Carita? Can anyone assist in identifying the blade type, dapur and any other details would be appreciated. Keris Patani? The profile of the base area... A closer shot of the base area...

28th March 2006, 05:51 AM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	no dress, no carita...? David, the standard carita does extend to the end of the hilt, afaik. I'm just suggesting, I'm not sure myself. No dress for this one. It came with a balinese bebondolan hilt. That's about it. I don't think it Balinese, though.

15th September 2006, 01:35 PM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Keris Melayu Kelantan As promised, here are the pictures after the fittings made. An old Malay keris in new fittings. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php or at http://alamshah.fotopic.net/c1030591.html Let me know your opinions.

15th September 2006, 01:53 PM	#7
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Transfer to new forum This old thread is transferred to our new keris forum. Ian.

28th March 2006, 04:10 AM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Hi Shahrial. I thought that with the carita the fullers extended the length of the blade, though i must admit i know less about peninsula blades than i'd like. Nice keris though, i like it. Is there any dress?

29th March 2006, 01:37 PM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	This blade is probably Kelantanese, from the style of the greneng and the fullers, which are highly unusual.

16th September 2006, 01:52 AM	#8
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	The sari bulan sheath is one of the most beautifully done example that I have seen. The way the daun-daun (the 2 tips of the sheath) curves out and then back in, before stretching out to form the caping (the point in the top-middle part of the sheath) can be described as almost 'sensuous'.

16th September 2006, 01:54 AM	#9
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	And of course, the floral motif hilt, pendoko and blade are all first rate too! Great great keris!

16th September 2006, 08:48 AM	#11
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Thank you both, Kai Wee and David. Blu, you make the sheath sounds 'sexy'... I like it very much too. The more I look at it, the more I like it. But I stll don't know much about the blade... Perhaps in time, I would identify it accordingly.

17th September 2006, 05:50 AM	#12
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	You mean you don't find it 'sexy' with all those killer curves? Oh yes, you have a "makan mata" full keris now.