Sweet little dagger

capt.smash · 7th April 2005, 08:23 PM

Hi guys i picked this lovely little dagger up the other day and thaught i would post some pics for comment.It was sold to me as a middle -eastern Indo-Persian ladies sleave dagger.Its a lovely little knife with mother of pearl and ebony inlay[unfortunately 4 pieces of mother of pearl are missing but i will replace them no problem

] with nice stone end pieces[the seller sugested they were mutton fat jade] and a elegantly shaped full tang blade.I love it

tom hyle · 8th April 2005, 03:09 AM

that is nice. Thanks; I kind of like these. They are usually attributed as for the Western market, which I actually have no input on; They are a version of pesh kabz/karud/salwar yatagan, but AFAIK from India....or Pakistan?... The sheath looks new?

Rick · 8th April 2005, 03:41 AM

Mutton fat jade - clear off-white to yellowish, usually nephrite jade.

tom hyle · 8th April 2005, 05:20 AM

Is it the little....blobs in the stone that define it as mutton-fat figure? That's just a guess, but I can see a resemblance.......too much about the jade? These are usually bigger, I think; how long is yours? Oh, there's a ruler in the pics; yeah; about the size I was remembering it; a 12" to 15" blade seems more typical or more what I've seen, but the little one is nice.

Ian · 10th April 2005, 08:11 AM

Hi Smasharoo:

We've talked about these a few times on the old Forum. Artzi Yarom has firmly identified them as late 19th or early 20th C. Indian manufacture, continuing up to and perhaps after WWI, and made for the European tourist trade. Late 19th C. Europe had a fascination for things Indan, and these were produced for that market. They seem to be fairly common and come in various sizes and shapes, most of them resemblling the style you show.

The scabbard is a later replacement.

As you say, they are well made and interesting knives.

Ian.

7th April 2005, 08:23 PM	#1
capt.smash Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Devon ,England Posts: 80	Sweet little dagger Hi guys i picked this lovely little dagger up the other day and thaught i would post some pics for comment.It was sold to me as a middle -eastern Indo-Persian ladies sleave dagger.Its a lovely little knife with mother of pearl and ebony inlay[unfortunately 4 pieces of mother of pearl are missing but i will replace them no problem ] with nice stone end pieces[the seller sugested they were mutton fat jade] and a elegantly shaped full tang blade.I love it Attached Images

8th April 2005, 05:20 AM	#4
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Is it the little....blobs in the stone that define it as mutton-fat figure? That's just a guess, but I can see a resemblance.......too much about the jade? These are usually bigger, I think; how long is yours? Oh, there's a ruler in the pics; yeah; about the size I was remembering it; a 12" to 15" blade seems more typical or more what I've seen, but the little one is nice. Last edited by tom hyle; 8th April 2005 at 05:22 AM. Reason: ruler

8th April 2005, 03:09 AM	#2
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	that is nice. Thanks; I kind of like these. They are usually attributed as for the Western market, which I actually have no input on; They are a version of pesh kabz/karud/salwar yatagan, but AFAIK from India....or Pakistan?... The sheath looks new?

8th April 2005, 03:41 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,291	Mutton fat jade - clear off-white to yellowish, usually nephrite jade.

10th April 2005, 08:11 AM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,198	Hi Smasharoo: We've talked about these a few times on the old Forum. Artzi Yarom has firmly identified them as late 19th or early 20th C. Indian manufacture, continuing up to and perhaps after WWI, and made for the European tourist trade. Late 19th C. Europe had a fascination for things Indan, and these were produced for that market. They seem to be fairly common and come in various sizes and shapes, most of them resemblling the style you show. The scabbard is a later replacement. As you say, they are well made and interesting knives. Ian.