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Hello everybody,
I wanted to show you my last collection item, I think an old silver european sword hilt and mounts in oriental-mamluk style ( big oxydation, first looked like bronze ). ( sadly the point/end piece of the scabbard mount is missing ) I think it comes from eastern Europa or Austria I have two questions maybe you can answer: first about decorations: Does anybody know what represent the eagle/griffin's head on the hilt , the scorpions(?) or blossom-flowers on the mounts and especially the face on the guard ? The second more structural for a weapon: Does anybody know how they fixed the blade in ? With resin-lead or other stuff like they made for talwar per example ? Or was it just made for gala-representation and not fixed at all ? If fixed like on tulwars, how could they remove it without heating damage ?? Kind regards |
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Then I cleaned it ( not to much)...
What do you think ? Kind regards |
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An interesting set. Looking at the ends of the quillons, I believe it could be French, influenced by the Egyptian campaign of Napoleon. The hilt resembles more to a camel then an eagle or phoenix to me. Parts like these were likely mounted on a presentation saber. The human face on the guard looks mythical, Ancient Greek origin perhaps, a popular fashion during the empire period.
An interesting set! Peter |
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see also http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...war+hilt+resin p.s.- yours could also be a horse head, looks like a hint of a bridle. At first I thought it could be a lion's head. It;s a bit like this Brit band sword hilt I found googling. Last edited by kronckew; 29th August 2020 at 03:46 PM. |
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I think the handle has not the shape of an eagles' head, but it is also not a camel because the animal has a peak if you look closely.
I think it is a griffins' head, they are sometimes shown with ears because they are a chimera of an eagle and a lion. Regards |
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Hello,
Really Thank you all for your comments ! Thank's a lot Kronckew for the details about make/remove a sword hilt !!! For the model, I thought too when I bought it that it was a french model inspired by the Egyptian campaign of Napoleon but I found two stamps and they are Austrian Silver Hallmarks ( 13 lot ) ( Really not easy to do a good picture of it !! ) that's why my ''eared'' eagle or camel turned to the idea of a griffin sometimes seen on Habsbourg family coat of arms and Vienna's statues For the stamps, What is interesting is the date, really old and well preserved item: 180(5?) if I'm right ( the last number is difficult to read ). if 1805 it coincides with the Austerlitz battle between Napoleon and the Russian and Austrian empire ( a full circle ![]() |
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Hi fran,
Excellent detective work on your part. The date looks to be 1805 to me too. This may be of interest in the European forum too, so I'll copy your thread over there to see if we get more comments. You'll need to check both forums for responses as the comments in each do not carry over to the other forum. Ian |
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Hello Ian,
Thank's for all ! |
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