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10th October 2019, 10:16 PM
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just a tourist greek-ottoman dagger ?
Hello everybody,
I just bought these two daggers, more for the ottoman model with the velvet scabbard, the mounts seems made of bad white metal, and seems a touristic ( greek ) piece but I liked the arabic engravings on the blade and guess the qama like hilt was made of horn, not expensive so I bought it. |
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10th October 2019, 10:26 PM
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I received it and clean it a little,
mounts are very heavy, seems made on coarse cast metal velvet seems recent on the scabbard. In the same time the blade is better than I expected, the ottoman fish-dragon chape is well made and seems silvered brass... Maybe an old greek decoration piece ? Or north african with ottoman influence ? |
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10th October 2019, 10:32 PM
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and finally
under some rust, this mark on the blade. Maybe someone knows where it comes from ? |
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10th October 2019, 10:35 PM
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So a mix
between a qama-beibut dagger, an ottoman greek dagger and north african engravings... Oscillating between a fancy touristic recent stuff and a signed blade... Glad to receive your comments !  Kind regards !! |
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10th October 2019, 11:42 PM
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It's what you said almost exactly
Ottoman Turkish (not Greek) 1900 1920 Constantinopolis for the koummiya 1920-1950 
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11th October 2019, 02:12 AM
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The dagger on the right is in fact from Morocco and is called a Koummya.
Stu |
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11th October 2019, 08:33 AM
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Hello,
Thank you Kubur and Stu, Really thank you Kubur for fix the origin of this dagger ! Do you think the ''mark'' is a turkish one ? The moroccan Koummya is sadly in really bad conditions  Kind regards |
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12th October 2019, 08:17 AM
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Like this makers mark ,
circular, said to be from balkans... are makers marks with drop shape only from Istanbul or Turkey ? + I saw them almost only on yatagans blade, didn't find ( on the web ) on kilij blade per example |
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12th October 2019, 09:28 AM
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Your stamp looks like but just looks like, your stamp is bigger and less deep than real stamps. Look at your sheat, the mounts are moulded its a nice old touristic object, and very decorative |
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