New tulwar sword

eric45 · 5th July 2012, 04:29 AM

Just picked this tulwar sword up, don't know much about them,
any opinions on this one would be helpful.

Erich

Lew · 5th July 2012, 03:07 PM

The blade is pattern welded and it has armory markings a fine example in my opinion. As far as age goes 1800-1850.

eric45 · 5th July 2012, 05:18 PM

Thanks, boy if this sword could talk the storys it could tell.
Erich

Norman McCormick · 6th July 2012, 11:01 PM

Hi Erich,
I like your sword. Can you confirm or not whether the hilt has a pin through it and the blade, it looks like it has but I cannot see whether it is an indent in the hilt or a pin. I have attached a photo of one of mine and you can see the similarities in the crossguard finials and between them a floriate silver 'washer' this is where the pin is located. Again nice blade with a subtle yelman.
My Regards,
Norman.

David R · 6th July 2012, 11:32 PM

Nice sword, actualy a very nice sword, and what looks like a good "watered steel" blade, mechanical damaske (laminated steel) rather than "wootz",....both are good, but according to H.R.Robinson mechanical tends to be older than wootz. If there is a pin through the hilt that is usualy a sign of Afghan origin and so a "Puhlwar" rather than a "Tulwar". (spells it how you want, it is a phonetic transliteration of a dialect word in a foreign language).

eric45 · 7th July 2012, 06:36 PM

It looks like an indent on one side and a hole on the other, but the hole has dirt in it, can't make out if it has a pin, what would be the purpose of the hole?
For a pin i imagine to hold the blade?

Erich

Jens Nordlunde · 7th July 2012, 10:32 PM

David, I am glad that you write 'If there is a pin through the hilt that is usualy a sign of Afghan origin', especially the word 'usually' as the pin thing was used all over.
Jens

Jens Nordlunde · 8th July 2012, 02:03 PM

The pin mostly does not go through to the other side, and the hole is often hidden by a flower like on Norman's sword.

Blacksmith · 8th July 2012, 08:33 PM

Hi, the segmented disc is typical to Lahore (Sind) swords.
Regards, Timo

Norman McCormick · 8th July 2012, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

The pin mostly does not go through to the other side, and the hole is often hidden by a flower like on Norman's sword.

Hi Jens,
The one I have is an oddity in that the pin goes all the way through and has the floriate 'washer' on both sides.
My Regards,
Norman.

Jens Nordlunde · 8th July 2012, 10:34 PM

Hi Norman,
You can't be sure till you have removed both flowers - can you?
However I would not do so - I would leave it an be happy with it as it is :-).

Norman McCormick · 9th July 2012, 02:00 PM

Hi Jens,
I seem to have an odd one, the pin does go all the way through (see photos), but it also has this floriate/vegetal decoration in the small fuller and on the spine which also seems rather unusual.
My Regards,
Norman.

Jens Nordlunde · 9th July 2012, 03:57 PM

Hi Norman,

Sometimes the pin goes the whole way through the hilt, and sometimes not.

The floral scroll looks nice, and is sometimes seen on blades.

Jens

5th July 2012, 04:29 AM	#1
eric45 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: usa Posts: 32	New tulwar sword Just picked this tulwar sword up, don't know much about them, any opinions on this one would be helpful. Erich Attached Images Last edited by eric45; 6th July 2012 at 03:50 AM.

6th July 2012, 11:01 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	Hi Erich, I like your sword. Can you confirm or not whether the hilt has a pin through it and the blade, it looks like it has but I cannot see whether it is an indent in the hilt or a pin. I have attached a photo of one of mine and you can see the similarities in the crossguard finials and between them a floriate silver 'washer' this is where the pin is located. Again nice blade with a subtle yelman. My Regards, Norman. Attached Images

9th July 2012, 02:00 PM	#12
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	Hi Jens, I seem to have an odd one, the pin does go all the way through (see photos), but it also has this floriate/vegetal decoration in the small fuller and on the spine which also seems rather unusual. My Regards, Norman. Attached Images

5th July 2012, 03:07 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	The blade is pattern welded and it has armory markings a fine example in my opinion. As far as age goes 1800-1850.

5th July 2012, 05:18 PM	#3
eric45 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: usa Posts: 32	Thanks, boy if this sword could talk the storys it could tell. Erich

6th July 2012, 11:32 PM	#5
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	Nice sword, actualy a very nice sword, and what looks like a good "watered steel" blade, mechanical damaske (laminated steel) rather than "wootz",....both are good, but according to H.R.Robinson mechanical tends to be older than wootz. If there is a pin through the hilt that is usualy a sign of Afghan origin and so a "Puhlwar" rather than a "Tulwar". (spells it how you want, it is a phonetic transliteration of a dialect word in a foreign language).

7th July 2012, 06:36 PM	#6
eric45 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: usa Posts: 32	It looks like an indent on one side and a hole on the other, but the hole has dirt in it, can't make out if it has a pin, what would be the purpose of the hole? For a pin i imagine to hold the blade? Erich

7th July 2012, 10:32 PM	#7
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	David, I am glad that you write 'If there is a pin through the hilt that is usualy a sign of Afghan origin', especially the word 'usually' as the pin thing was used all over. Jens

8th July 2012, 02:03 PM	#8
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The pin mostly does not go through to the other side, and the hole is often hidden by a flower like on Norman's sword.

8th July 2012, 08:33 PM	#9
Blacksmith Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 98	Hi, the segmented disc is typical to Lahore (Sind) swords. Regards, Timo

8th July 2012, 10:34 PM	#11
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Norman, You can't be sure till you have removed both flowers - can you? However I would not do so - I would leave it an be happy with it as it is :-).

9th July 2012, 03:57 PM	#13
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Norman, Sometimes the pin goes the whole way through the hilt, and sometimes not. The floral scroll looks nice, and is sometimes seen on blades. Jens