Ivory and Silver Junggayan Barong Restoration

Battara · 27th February 2011, 11:11 PM

Greetings Folks!

Here is a restoration I did for someone recently. The piece is a junggayan ivory and silver barong with a Chinese smith's mark. It had a plain brass band in place of an okir/okil chased silver band.

I replaced it with a silver okir/okil silver band. Here are some before pictures.

Battara · 27th February 2011, 11:13 PM

Here are the after pictures.

Enjoy:

Ferguson · 27th February 2011, 11:50 PM

Oh man, what a difference one band makes! Very nice work. It follows the original design very nicely. Good work!

Steve

Robert · 27th February 2011, 11:54 PM

What can I say but more beautiful work by the master.

Robert

asomotif · 28th February 2011, 12:13 AM

Nice job !

I would patinate the silver wire a little as now it looks a little bit to overcleaned for my taste.
But the chase or repouse work on the band looks great.
How many hours did such a job take ?

Best regards
Willem

David · 28th February 2011, 12:56 AM

Your work is beautiful Jose, but frankly from my own aesthetic i prefer the way it looks in the original photo with plain brass band breaking up all that silver.
You did a great job matching the repousse work though.

Nonoy Tan · 28th February 2011, 02:06 AM

Hi Jose, It is a beautiful piece. Did you say that it has the mark of a Chinese blacksmith? Can you show it to us?

Nonoy

Nathaniel · 28th February 2011, 05:04 AM

Very Nice Jose! Thanks for sharing! Love to see what you can do!

Battara · 28th February 2011, 06:02 AM

Thank you folks!

I felt truly honored to work on this project.

Willem I think just that part of the restoration alone may have taken around 2-3 hours altogether. Also, the light is brighter in the restoration pictures I think.

David, this is how these were originally done - bands of alternating woven and chased silver bands.

Nonoy Tan, as far as the Chinese mark is concerned, I will have to get back to you on that - don't have pictures of that part.

vantique · 28th February 2011, 07:36 AM

From Elegant to Royalty.

vince

David · 28th February 2011, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

David, this is how these were originally done - bands of alternating woven and chased silver bands.

I'm not questioning the authenticity of the job Jose. This just isn't a case where my personal aesthetic and ideas about restoration would choose not to change anything. If indeed this middle ring was once silver it seems it was replaced for some reason in it's history. Part of what i am collecting is the history of the piece. My reasoning is not a case of right or wrong, merely a preference. Again, you did a very nice job...

Battara · 28th February 2011, 07:36 PM

Oh I understand. Actually, the original ring was missing and the last owner placed a thin brass band from a craft shop in there to cover up the missing space temporarily.

Dimasalang · 1st March 2011, 01:02 AM

Wow! Very impressive!

David · 1st March 2011, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Oh I understand. Actually, the original ring was missing and the last owner placed a thin brass band from a craft shop in there to cover up the missing space temporarily.

Then restoration makes more sense to me. From the photo it doesn't look that temporary.

kino · 1st March 2011, 03:54 PM

It got a whole lot better!
Good job.
Did you have to take the hilt off? If you didn't, how did you
solder it? Cold?

Atlantia · 1st March 2011, 03:56 PM

Looks fantastic Jose.

What sort of thickness is the sheet silver you used?
Metal punches or horn and wood?

Great work. Looks a treat!

CharlesS · 1st March 2011, 06:14 PM

Yes Jose!....Looks fantastic!

Battara · 1st March 2011, 11:54 PM

Thank you folks!

I did not have to take the hilt off, but did have to soft solder the ends of the band together. Had to do it very carefully so that I wouldn't burn the wood or ivory.

Also I used I think 30 gauge thick silver. I repoussed it and then chased it to match the other bands. When I do this work I use my own hand made steel punches with a chasing hammer.

Sajen · 2nd March 2011, 11:49 PM

This restoration is so good that when you don't tell it nobody will recognize it!

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 4th March 2011, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

This restoration is so good that when you don't tell it nobody will recognize it!

Regards,

Detlef

What a great compliment - Thank you (Vielen Dank!)

Sajen · 6th March 2011, 02:53 PM

Hello Jose,

credit where credit is due!

Maurice · 6th March 2011, 04:07 PM

Great restoration on a great barung.
Wonderfull piece!

Maurice

Dayaktribe · 6th September 2018, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

What a great compliment - Thank you (Vielen Dank!)

Very Talented restorer!

Battara · 9th September 2018, 01:39 AM

Thank you. I do the best I can with what I have.

27th February 2011, 11:11 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Ivory and Silver Junggayan Barong Restoration Greetings Folks! Here is a restoration I did for someone recently. The piece is a junggayan ivory and silver barong with a Chinese smith's mark. It had a plain brass band in place of an okir/okil chased silver band. I replaced it with a silver okir/okil silver band. Here are some before pictures. Attached Images

27th February 2011, 11:13 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Here are the after pictures. Enjoy: Attached Images

27th February 2011, 11:50 PM	#3
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Oh man, what a difference one band makes! Very nice work. It follows the original design very nicely. Good work! Steve

27th February 2011, 11:54 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	What can I say but more beautiful work by the master. Robert

28th February 2011, 12:13 AM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Nice job ! I would patinate the silver wire a little as now it looks a little bit to overcleaned for my taste. But the chase or repouse work on the band looks great. How many hours did such a job take ? Best regards Willem

28th February 2011, 12:56 AM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,125	Your work is beautiful Jose, but frankly from my own aesthetic i prefer the way it looks in the original photo with plain brass band breaking up all that silver. You did a great job matching the repousse work though.

28th February 2011, 02:06 AM	#7
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Hi Jose, It is a beautiful piece. Did you say that it has the mark of a Chinese blacksmith? Can you show it to us? Nonoy

28th February 2011, 05:04 AM	#8
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Very Nice Jose! Thanks for sharing! Love to see what you can do!

28th February 2011, 06:02 AM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Thank you folks! I felt truly honored to work on this project. Willem I think just that part of the restoration alone may have taken around 2-3 hours altogether. Also, the light is brighter in the restoration pictures I think. David, this is how these were originally done - bands of alternating woven and chased silver bands. Nonoy Tan, as far as the Chinese mark is concerned, I will have to get back to you on that - don't have pictures of that part.

28th February 2011, 07:36 AM	#10
vantique Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	From Elegant to Royalty. vince

28th February 2011, 07:36 PM	#12
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Oh I understand. Actually, the original ring was missing and the last owner placed a thin brass band from a craft shop in there to cover up the missing space temporarily.

1st March 2011, 01:02 AM	#13
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	Wow! Very impressive!

1st March 2011, 03:54 PM	#15
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	It got a whole lot better! Good job. Did you have to take the hilt off? If you didn't, how did you solder it? Cold?

1st March 2011, 03:56 PM	#16
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Looks fantastic Jose. What sort of thickness is the sheet silver you used? Metal punches or horn and wood? Great work. Looks a treat!

1st March 2011, 06:14 PM	#17
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Yes Jose!....Looks fantastic!

1st March 2011, 11:54 PM	#18
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Thank you folks! I did not have to take the hilt off, but did have to soft solder the ends of the band together. Had to do it very carefully so that I wouldn't burn the wood or ivory. Also I used I think 30 gauge thick silver. I repoussed it and then chased it to match the other bands. When I do this work I use my own hand made steel punches with a chasing hammer.

2nd March 2011, 11:49 PM	#19
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	This restoration is so good that when you don't tell it nobody will recognize it! Regards, Detlef

6th March 2011, 02:53 PM	#21
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Hello Jose, credit where credit is due!

6th March 2011, 04:07 PM	#22
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,346	Great restoration on a great barung. Wonderfull piece! Maurice

9th September 2018, 01:39 AM	#24
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Thank you. I do the best I can with what I have.